Ken Ramsey=Best!!

[Clip-Clop]

First Dude has only won 1 race if I am not mistaken. Granted he has scored loads of $ picking spots but at least PP is winning races now.

[randallscott35]

This is not Danthebluegrassman...he can go.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

First Dude has only won 1 race if I am not mistaken. Granted he has scored loads of $ picking spots but at least PP is winning races now.

An arguement could be made that First Dude would have won the last three races Pleasant prince ran in. Considering he doesn't like to win much, maybe not, but he seems better than PP.

[Merlinsky]

Will there even be enough room? I heard Espoir City (JPN) is still planning to ship over here for the Classic. Never run at 1 1/4 and just lost a race at 1 mile. He's by a son of Sunday Silence named Gold Allure out of a Brian's Time mare. The connections seemed to think he was in need of the race, or that's what I gathered when they called him fat.

Does Calvin Borel even have a horse pointing for the BCC? Rachel and Super Saver are gone, Mine That Bird appears to have one more chance to get his act together or retirement's a real possibility so I'm not sure they'd throw him in there.

[tjfla]

MTB is pointed to the BC Mile

Epsoir City is still pointed to the BC Classic,like u said they just wanted to get him a prep since he didnt run since like April or May

There should be 2 spots remaining maybe 3 if Musket Man doesnt go(Was suppose to go if won but lost by a head)

Well First Dude at least hits the board in Grade 1 Races,PP ran once after the Derby and it was an 11th. I could understand if it was like a Morning Line situation if PP won the Penn Derby or even the Super Derby(over a better field) but come on the Ohio and OK Derby??

[Thunder Gulch]

I won't be totally shocked if First Dude hit the board. I get the impression that he just doesn't know how to win and loses focus during the race. The way he goes fast, fades, and re-rallies tells me there is more inside this one if they can figure him out. As it is, he may just end up being Perfect Drift, albeit with better handlers and a cooler name.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by tjfla

MTB is pointed to the BC Mile

Epsoir City is still pointed to the BC Classic,like u said they just wanted to get him a prep since he didnt run since like April or May

There should be 2 spots remaining maybe 3 if Musket Man doesnt go(Was suppose to go if won but lost by a head)

Well First Dude at least hits the board in Grade 1 Races,PP ran once after the Derby and it was an 11th. I could understand if it was like a Morning Line situation if PP won the Penn Derby or even the Super Derby(over a better field) but come on the Ohio and OK Derby??

Is there any way that a 3 year old colt can improve or regress significantly between May and November?

Is there any pace scenario with the likely participants that would aid PP's style?

Is the owner a Kentucky guy with a huge ego that wants a runner in the race regardless of the chances for success?

How do you view success? Is a fourth or fifth place check in the classic to be viewed as "successful"?

Regardless of whether or not they are delusional, the connections have been very public since the spring about how high they are on this horse.

[richard]

Why shouldn't he go if he's healthy ? He's a 3 year, winning graded stakes, and eligible to improve .

[VOL JACK]

IF Borel rides PP in the BCC.... I expect him to win by at least 6 lengths.

[tjfla]

Originally Posted by richard

Why shouldn't he go if he's healthy ? He's a 3 year, winning graded stakes, and eligible to improve .

Winning Graded Stakes HAHA. PP wins the OK Derby and is going to the BC Classic,supposedly a race where the best horses in the World at the time are going. U wanna know where the 2nd and 3rd place horses are going? ZIA PARK

My point is I could understand if he ran against better competition and won but since the KY Derby the only race against good 3 yr olds was when he ran 11th in the Preakness.

As it stands now the field looks like this

Zenyatta
Quality Rd
Blame
Rail Trip
Lookin at Lucky
Richard's Kid
Epsoir City
Fly Down
Haynesfield
First Dude
Awesome Gem
Pleasant Prince
Gitano Hernando-Possible
Musket Man-Possible
Etched-Possible
Morning Line-Possible
Byword-Possible