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Old 10-04-2010, 03:10 PM
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Ya it's Moss. . . You're right about the distances.
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Old 10-04-2010, 03:21 PM
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The 2-3 finishers got new tops for the race, but just glancing at the results makes me think the track was extremely anti-speed, which goes against the track's reputation.

I actually told someone before the Iselin that this horse could win the Classic, and was promptly laughed at when he ran second as the chalk.

I wonder what race he'll go in. Obviously he'd be very dangerous in the mile. I'd be interested in him in the classic if there weren't already two speed horses.
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Old 10-04-2010, 04:16 PM
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The 2-3 finishers got new tops for the race,
Yeah, any time deep closers get a pace that fast in front of them - that's typically when they are able to run lifetime top Beyers.

Here are what the running lines will look like for the horses in that race:

RC: 1st by 2, 1st by 4, 1st by 8.5, 1st by 0.75 lengths

Giant Oak: 7th by 17, 7th by 19, 5th by 14, 2nd by 0.75 lengths

A. U. Miner: 6th by 15, 6th by 17, 3rd by 11, 3rd by 1 length

Going Ballistic: 8th by 19, 8th by 20, 6th by 18, 4th by 16.5 lengths

Racing Bran: 4th by 8, 4th by 13, 7th by 21, 5th by 27.75 lengths

Shadowbdancing: 3rd by 4, 3rd by 6, 2nd by 8.5, 6th by 52.5 lengths

Arcodoro: 2nd by 2, 2nd by 4, 4th by 13, 7th by 71.5 lengths

Temple City: 5th by 9, 5th by 16, 8th by 31, 8th by 90.25 lengths



The horse who was 2nd after a half mile was beaten 71.5 lengths

The horse who was 3rd after a half mile was beaten 52.5 lengths

The horse who was 4th after a half mile was beaten 27.75 lengths

The horse who was 5th after a half mile was beaten 90.25 lengths


They got fuclKed the fucl< up by that pace RC set. Amazing he held on to win the race after that. The two deep closers who weren't fractued by that pace were both in another county early.

Going Ballistic is a millionaire - who's probably most famous for upsetting Grasshopper in the Super Derby one race after Grasshopper gave Street Sense a dogfight in the Travers .. friggen Going Ballistic never got within 16.5 lengths of Redding Collirey at any point in the entire race .. and yet he still managed to finish in the top half of the field.
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Old 10-04-2010, 03:59 PM
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Ya it's Moss. . . You're right about the distances.
So - using what the Moss pace figures have - and what the Beyer was - if I had the pace and final the same way they did - my numbers for Redding Collery would look like this:

143-105 for a 4f-final.

135-105 for a 6f-final

119-105 for a 1m-final


Jesus man.
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Old 10-04-2010, 04:04 PM
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Elaborate please.
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