Rachel Alexandra Retired

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Mayweather would have destroyed him. No loss other than tons of $ to the fight promoters/Vegas/participants.

I disagree. If Mayweather thought he would destroy him, they would be getting ready to fight. And to the few remaining fans of the sport, it is a loss. Just as to the few remaining fans of the sport, RA vs Z never happening was a loss to the sport.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I disagree. If Mayweather thought he would destroy him, they would be getting ready to fight. And to the few remaining fans of the sport, it is a loss. Just as to the few remaining fans of the sport, RA vs Z never happening was a loss to the sport.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I disagree. If Mayweather thought he would destroy him, they would be getting ready to fight. And to the few remaining fans of the sport, it is a loss. Just as to the few remaining fans of the sport, RA vs Z never happening was a loss to the sport.

Sad to say, as one of the remaining fans (I bet often but will still watch and enjoy if I am not) of both sports (probably born about 50 years too late) that I agree, it is a loss to the fans, but fans don't give up on a sport because on event doesn't go. As far as creating new fans...Mayweather v. Pac-Man would not, fight would be too scientific for the casual observer, go the distance and be a scorecard rout, IMO Pac has no D. While we all so badly wanted to see RA v Z nobody is going to give up on horse racing because it didn't happen.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Sad to say, as one of the remaining fans (I bet often but will still watch and enjoy if I am not) of both sports (probably born about 50 years too late) that I agree, it is a loss to the fans, but fans don't give up on a sport because on event doesn't go. As far as creating new fans...Mayweather v. Pac-Man would not, fight would be too scientific for the casual observer, go the distance and be a scorecard rout, IMO Pac has no D. While we all so badly wanted to see RA v Z nobody is going to give up on horse racing because it didn't happen.

I do believe that fans give up on a sport because big events dont go. Perhaps not one singular event, but the frustration levels eventually lead to a breaking point. I won't buy Pac/Margarito as I didnt buy Mosley/Mora. They just arent compelling events. I'm not the only one that feels this way. I dont think that Pacquio would let any fight be scientific. His willingness to take punches may work against him in a fight against mayweather. But he would certainly score more against mayweather than the over the hill gang that he has been facing and Floyd is a great frontrunner who may fight a little different if he was faced with real adversity. Not to mention that I can't see a guy who constantly has money problems passing up upwards of 50 million for a fight he truly thinks he will win.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I do believe that fans give up on a sport because big events dont go. Perhaps not one singular event, but the frustration levels eventually lead to a breaking point. I won't buy Pac/Margarito as I didnt buy Mosley/Mora. They just arent compelling events. I'm not the only one that feels this way. I dont think that Pacquio would let any fight be scientific. His willingness to take punches may work against him in a fight against mayweather. But he would certainly score more against mayweather than the over the hill gang that he has been facing and Floyd is a great frontrunner who may fight a little different if he was faced with real adversity. Not to mention that I can't see a guy who constantly has money problems passing up upwards of 50 million for a fight he truly thinks he will win.

First Bold, great point, I am not there yet for sure but you never know.
Second Bold, if they let Antonio cheat again that would be a great fight.
As far as the fight analysis, we may never know sadly. I have rooted against Floyd over and over and thought that many of the guys would give him some real adversity. Still haven't seen it. Perhaps Manny would be the one to press him hard enough but hand speed at the level he competes is often too much for anybody to deal with.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

First Bold, great point, I am not there yet for sure but you never know.
Second Bold, if they let Antonio cheat again that would be a great fight.
As far as the fight analysis, we may never know sadly. I have rooted against Floyd over and over and thought that many of the guys would give him some real adversity. Still haven't seen it. Perhaps Manny would be the one to press him hard enough but hand speed at the level he competes is often too much for anybody to deal with.

Mayweather's hand speed frustrates the hell out of fighters when combined with his great defensive skills. But the difference between most fighters and Pacquio is that Pacquio has great hand speed as well and will take a shot to give one. IMO his speed and quickness will lead to him connecting on a far greater % of punches than Mayweather is used to. I understand that De la Hoya is washed up but Pacquio scored far easier against him than Mayweather was able to. And I don't think that mayweathers power will bother him. Once he takes the best of what Floyd has to give, I can see pacquio coming in and be willing to trade shots. Mayweather's ego may force him to stand in and do the same which would IMO be a huge mistake. If Floyd runs and Pacquio is able to be the aggressor and land a sufficient number of punches, he would win a decision. It is really a great matchup and a disgrace that mayweather won't stop the bs and make the fight.

[Indian Charlie]

I predict that RA will continue to have workouts and be brought out of retirement for the BC.

Or to race again next year.

She really wants to keep racing.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I predict that RA will continue to have workouts and be brought out of retirement for the BC.

Or to race again next year.

She really wants to keep racing.

Would be nice. She didn't run a bad step all year. Gutted those who beat her too.

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I predict that RA will continue to have workouts and be brought out of retirement for the BC.

Or to race again next year.

She really wants to keep racing.

Actually I talked to her new life coach and she's been incredibly stressed out the past few months. She's wanting to move on to a far less stressful life of getting railed a few times a year and eating the finest hay and drinking the distillest of the illest water.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I predict that RA will continue to have workouts and be brought out of retirement for the BC.

Or to race again next year.

She really wants to keep racing.

I have to admit: I chuckled at this.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

RA vs Z never happening was a loss to the sport.

Not really. Didn't you read this thread Chuck?
RA was so tired after the Woodward that she was never able to run fast again for the rest of her life. Every horsey-board dunce could see that so they probably wouldn't have shown up to watch/bet anyway since RA obviously wouldn't have had a chance.