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Old 09-01-2010, 11:03 AM
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So is Blind Luck the best filly in training then? Or would she have just won any 10F race at 'Toga this summer?
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Old 09-01-2010, 11:17 AM
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So is Blind Luck the best filly in training then? Or would she have just won any 10F race at 'Toga this summer?
She was the best filly in the Alabama for sure.

If you insert only RA or Life At Ten in the Alabama - they'd have walked on the lead ... RA would have won easily - Life At Ten would have run back to her easy Del Cap score.

The whole 10 furlong thing is pure nonsense. Life At Ten handled it fine when unpressured at Delaware. When asked to go on a suicide mission last time - she finished 11.5 behind Persistently.

Watch the way Rachel Alexandra finished up in the Kentucky Oaks under no urging again .. that's a 3yo filly in early May trained by Hal Wiggins .. if she gets no pressure she absolutely thrives at 10 furlongs. If she's locked up with Big Drama or in a duel with Life At Ten - she's not seeing it out.

Miss Singshix is a better 10 furlong horse than Persistantly - she was just beaten 15+ lengths by Persistantly at 10 furlongs because Persistantly is a much better closing sprinter...and the race was run like a sprint. Miss Singshix was kept way too close to the pace and stopped because of it.
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Old 09-01-2010, 11:23 AM
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She was the best filly in the Alabama for sure.

If you insert only RA or Life At Ten in the Alabama - they'd have walked on the lead ... RA would have won easily - Life At Ten would have run back to her easy Del Cap score.

The whole 10 furlong thing is pure nonsense. Life At Ten handled it fine when unpressured at Delaware. When asked to go on a suicide mission last time - she finished 11.5 behind Persistently.

Watch the way Rachel Alexandra finished up in the Kentucky Oaks under no urging again .. that's a 3yo filly in early May trained by Hal Wiggins .. if she gets no pressure she absolutely thrives at 10 furlongs. If she's locked up with Big Drama or in a duel with Life At Ten - she's not seeing it out.

Miss Singshix is a better 10 furlong horse than Persistantly - she was just beaten 15+ lengths by Persistantly at 10 furlongs because Persistantly is a much better closing sprinter...and the race was run like a sprint. Miss Singshix was kept way too close to the pace and stopped because of it.
She did get the 9.5 after putting BD away though, again in early May though.

Second Bold, kind of the way Sun King used to finish up in longer races?
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Old 09-01-2010, 11:39 AM
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Miss Singshix is a better 10 furlong horse than Persistantly - she was just beaten 15+ lengths by Persistantly at 10 furlongs because Persistantly is a much better closing sprinter...and the race was run like a sprint. Miss Singshix was kept way too close to the pace and stopped because of it.
Maybe she was too close to the pace and Valdivia could have waited abit longer, but she ran very similar to other Wolfson imports of late at AP and Spa. Wolfson looked to have a live turf horse this weekend but did nothing, her run was very reminiscent to Jessica Is Back's race against Rachel earlier in the year also. I don't trust Wolfson at certain tracks, obviously he is great at Calder and Gulfstream, and perhaps at tracks where the wild west rules run wild. But she was empty this day, there is no way she shouldn't have at least clunked up for third in the PE.
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Old 09-01-2010, 11:45 AM
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Maybe she was too close to the pace and Valdivia could have waited abit longer, but she ran very similar to other Wolfson imports of late at AP and Spa. Wolfson looked to have a live turf horse this weekend but did nothing, her run was very reminiscent to Jessica Is Back's race against Rachel earlier in the year also. I don't trust Wolfson at certain tracks, obviously he is great at Calder and Gulfstream, and perhaps at tracks where the wild west rules run wild. But she was empty this day, there is no way she shouldn't have at least clunked up for third in the PE.

Im sure Im not the only one wondering why he continues to talk about a closing sprinter going 10f and talking up Martys horse like shes that much better then the Shug. Some of the logic being used here is simply WRONG.
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Old 09-01-2010, 11:52 AM
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Im sure Im not the only one wondering why he continues to talk about a closing sprinter going 10f and talking up Martys horse like shes that much better then the Shug. Some of the logic being used here is simply WRONG.
Here's the thing, if Zenyatta was in the Ensign, Borel takes back and concedes the lead to Life At 10. There is no way either Jockey gets into a duel knowing there is a legitimate closer coming from the back. Miss Singshix should have been the benefactor of the pace scenario that developed. In a race between Persistantly and Miss Singshix at GP next year, if it happens, I would gladly take the latter. I think she is a better horse than Persistantly, plain and simple.
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Old 09-01-2010, 11:53 AM
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Im sure Im not the only one wondering why he continues to talk about a closing sprinter going 10f and talking up Martys horse like shes that much better then the Shug. Some of the logic being used here is simply WRONG.
There's a competent contrarian nature to a lot of it .. because that's what leads to high ROI.

Someone who tries to be contrarian without understanding some of this stuff ... that's what leads to thinking Admiral Alex has a shot to win the Travers.
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CSC1985 and RockTardLiar1985 are proving to be some tag team. Combined they have a thimble's worth of horse racing acumen, but they talk a good game.
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Old 09-01-2010, 12:34 PM
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There's a competent contrarian nature to a lot of it .. because that's what leads to high ROI.

Someone who tries to be contrarian without understanding some of this stuff ... that's what leads to thinking Admiral Alex has a shot to win the Travers.
A shot meaning no one should say he has 0 chance.
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A shot meaning no one should say he has 0 chance.
Dude, Admiral Alex was one of the most obvious no hopers you've seen in the last 5 years.

You just didn't realize it.
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