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Old 08-07-2010, 05:27 PM
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Lucky and Zenyatta will eat these two for lunch at 1 1/4...
Lookin at Lucky will get his brains bashed in by Blame.

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Old 08-07-2010, 05:50 PM
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Lookin at Lucky will get his brains bashed in by Blame.

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I don't think so, but who knows.
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Old 08-07-2010, 08:52 PM
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I don't think so, but who knows.
Lookin at Lucky? Are we talking about the same horse? I know you were one of the first to say that Blame's win in the Foster would be overrated but Lookin at Lucky, really?

You must think he's going to do a lot of improving between now and the Breeders' Cup. Blame has run a number of races that are better than Lookin at Lucky's best.

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Old 08-07-2010, 08:53 PM
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Lookin at Lucky? Are we talking about the same horse? I know you were one of the first to say that Blame's win in the Foster would be overrated but Lookin at Lucky, really?

You must think he's going to do a lot of improving between now and the Breeders' Cup. Blame has run a number of races that are better than Lookin at Lucky's best.

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This is false, Blame has run 1 race that is better then Luckys best.
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Old 08-07-2010, 08:54 PM
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This is false, Blame has run 1 race that is better then Luckys best.
Can you reply to the dream thread please?

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Old 08-07-2010, 08:57 PM
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Can you reply to the dream thread please?

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Do you know anyone who suggested the dream thread?
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Old 08-07-2010, 10:08 PM
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Lookin at Lucky? Are we talking about the same horse? I know you were one of the first to say that Blame's win in the Foster would be overrated but Lookin at Lucky, really?

You must think he's going to do a lot of improving between now and the Breeders' Cup. Blame has run a number of races that are better than Lookin at Lucky's best.

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I have felt since day 1 that Lookin at Lucky has been an underrated horse.

People assume that since he was the 2yo champ he would not develop into a nice 3yo, but the way I see it, he was your atypical 2yo champion.

I thought that him being a late foal might possibly work to his advantage because he still had maturing to do and had more upside than most 2yo champs going into their three year old year.

I believe this has played out mostly true. If you completely dismiss his 2yo season and treat him as a late to get started 3yo, you'd see that he's a horse still on the improve. He's getting stronger, his races are getting faster and he's winning more easily as well (though getting off that synthetic crap might have a big part of this). If you toss his SA Derby and Ky Derby races, he's shown to have gotten better with each start, with his best two to date being the Preakness and Haskell.

And yeah, I do believe it to be a reasonable thing, tossing his two derbies.

Now, I'm not saying he's the next super horse, but I do believe him to be a really nice horse that does not get the respect that he should.
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Old 08-07-2010, 08:52 PM
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Lookin at Lucky will get his brains bashed in by Blame.

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Strong from someone who has loved Blame since last year and then does not even pick him on top.
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Old 08-07-2010, 08:53 PM
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Strong from someone who has loved Blame since last year and then does not even pick him on top.
He was too "slow", right?

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Old 08-07-2010, 08:54 PM
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He was too "slow", right?

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Ughh, I think someone in this thread nailed it. QR looked FLAT and Blame took advantage of it. JV should ****ing ride instead of looking back 50x.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:01 PM
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Ughh, I think someone in this thread nailed it. QR looked FLAT and Blame took advantage of it. JV should ****ing ride instead of looking back 50x.
Exactly right. Johnny V got the horse beat. The horse is FAST. The horse is the BEST. The numbers don't lie.

ha ha ha

You should get your ass over to PA and do some damage control with Mike the Eunuch, Da Hoss, CJ, and the rest of the numbers crew.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:06 PM
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111 Beyer for Blame (not buying it)
So 110 for QR and 108 for MM? Basically the same figures as the Met?

I am sure CJ or someone can justify it, but there is no way that Blame's performance was 8 pts better than the Foster. The track was definitely slow today considering how slow the raw velocity numbers were, but I can't believe it was that slow. Blame basically ran the same race as the Foster where he closed into a slow pace to wear down a loose leader. I figured the number would be closer to 103 which would pair Blame up with the Foster and pair QR up with the Hal's Hope. I don't buy that today was 5 lengths better.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:31 PM
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Someone should put a suicide watch at paceadvantage, in particular the owner.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:42 PM
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He's not the next Secretariat, but Mustket Man is pretty cool... 13-for-13 on the board in races from six furlongs to 1 1/4 miles including the Ky. Derby and the Met Mile. Not bad.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:36 PM
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Exactly right. Johnny V got the horse beat. The horse is FAST. The horse is the BEST. The numbers don't lie.

ha ha ha

You should get your ass over to PA and do some damage control with Mike the Eunuch, Da Hoss, CJ, and the rest of the numbers crew.
Admit it, you love me.
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:36 PM
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Admit it, you love me.

I have said that exact same thing to you many times before....
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Old 08-07-2010, 09:42 PM
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Admit it, you love me.
What's comical about the whole thing is that TOM, just about the biggest DOOFUS on the web, actually gets it when it comes to Z and QR and you, CJ, Mike the EUNUCH, and the rest, don't. Hell, even the trip challenged Classhandicapper gets it.

But you all put a lot of effort into it, nonetheless. Keep up the good work.
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