Saratoga 5th - No DQ?

[ateamstupid]

They have no idea what the hell they're doing. When the jockeys get on the phone with them there might as well be a monkey on the other end.

Home vs. Away team.

Doesn't bother me because Plesa has a knack for burning my tickets up. Why he's at Toga can be chalked up to delusions of grandeur.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Home vs. Away team.

Doesn't bother me because Plesa has a knack for burning my tickets up. Why he's at Toga can be chalked up to delusions of grandeur.

But some people on this board say that's crazy, that "stewards don't work like that."

Originally Posted by randallscott35

But some people on this board say that's crazy, that "stewards don't work like that."

Oh sure they don't. They are professionals.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

The incident on the turn had absolutely no impact on the outcome of the race.

Why punish the bettors who played an 8/1 winner that was clearly best? Why punish the owner who paid all of the training bills?

Fine the jockey and give him days and be done with it. The idea that doing this will somehow lead to injuries is nonsense.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

The incident on the turn had absolutely no impact on the outcome of the race.

Why punish the bettors who played an 8/1 winner that was clearly best?

Fine the jockey and give him days and be done with it. The idea that doing this will somehow lead to injuries is nonsense.

If that's your POV that's fine, it's consistency that bettors want

[CSC]

The precedent has been set, let's hope no one gets hurt out there and decisions will be consistent from here on in. If they do DQ someone for something similar you can bet the bettors will remember this day.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

If that's your POV that's fine, it's consistency that bettors want

Yes - you prefer consistency ... although if the winner does that - and the horse it fouls is beaten a head for 3rd place .. it's a DQ because it cost a horse a placing...and than you feel the pain of the bettor who played the best horse at 8/1 - or the owner who paid 2K a month in training bills and gets placed 4th with the best horse.

If the incident has no impact at all on the outcome in any way shape or form ... don't change it and fine the jockey and give him days.

[NTamm1215]

I can't dispute the fact that the 7 was likely not running better than 4th. However, if we're at a point where the only criteria for a DQ is whether it cost the affected party a placing then what's stopping jockeys from plowing into tired horses left and right? That's how injuries happen.

That was a ridiculously terrible non-call.

NT

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I can't dispute the fact that the 7 was likely not running better than 4th. However, if we're at a point where the only criteria for a DQ is whether it cost the affected party a placing then what's stopping jockeys from plowing into tired horses left and right? That's how injuries happen.

That was a ridiculously terrible non-call.

NT

I think you could make the analogy to pass interference in football. If the ball was not catchable, then pass interefence will not be called. Even if you foul the wide receiver, pass interference will not be called if the ball wasn't catchable because the outcome of the play was not affected.

In both horseracing and football I think the argument can be made that the interference is irrelevant if it does not change the outcome. However, I still think the jockeys should get days for reckless moves like this. There obviously needs to be some deterrent to reckless riding.

In the race in question, Bridgmohan got lucky that the horse he fouled held on for 4th. Because if the horse would have run 5th, I think the stewards would have had to disqualify the winner for costing that horse 4th.