8/1 (MTH): Haskell (G1), Oceanport & Matchmaker (G3's)

[RockHardTen1985]

Im saying right now, Lucky wins this race. Baffert has him ready to roll. He wins this and runs huge in the Travers, September 1st he is the clear cut leader in the 3yr old division. A division that is wide open right now.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Im saying right now, Lucky wins this race. Baffert has him ready to roll. He wins this and runs huge in the Travers, September 1st he is the clear cut leader in the 3yr old division. A division that is wide open right now.

He'll be the favorite. You aren't saying much

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

He'll be the favorite. You aren't saying much

Randy this is not a one race prediction. Its a 3yr old championship prediction, for a class/crop that is WIDE OPEN RIGHT NOW. He might be the favorite, but he might not be. If he is, it will be around 5-2 not odds on or anything like that.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Randy this is not a one race prediction. Its a 3yr old championship prediction, for a class/crop that is WIDE OPEN RIGHT NOW. He might be the favorite, but he might not be. If he is, it will be around 5-2 not odds on or anything like that.

Again you aren't saying much of anything here. But be my guest.

[hockey2315]

Trappe Shot won't be favored. Mine That Bird was just favored in the Firecracker. . . enough said.

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Trappe Shot won't be favored. Mine That Bird was just favored in the Firecracker. . . enough said.

I agree, they always make the Derby winner the favorite in his first race after the Triple Crown.

I can't see Super Saver going off higher than 3-1. He will take every casual dollar that's out there from people who look at the program and remember "Hey that horse won the Kentucky Derby so he must be good enough to win this race!"

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

I agree, they always make the Derby winner the favorite in his first race after the Triple Crown.

I can't see Super Saver going off higher than 3-1. He will take every casual dollar that's out there from people who look at the program and remember "Hey that horse won the Kentucky Derby so he must be good enough to win this race!"

I can't see a way on earth LAL isn't favored. Think about it. He was the Derby fave. He was the same price as the Derby winner in the Preakness and SS ran horribly. He's a clear 2-1 or less in here at post.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Again you aren't saying much of anything here. But be my guest.

Ok Randy. This is as wide open as its ever been. 3 different triple crown winners, none of the major triple crown prep winners are even relevant right now. Sometimes I think your retarded, but then its clear you cant help yourself and do it on purpose.

PS- Do you like my Avatar? I thought out of everyone you would love it the most.

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Im saying right now, Lucky wins this race. Baffert has him ready to roll. He wins this and runs huge in the Travers, September 1st he is the clear cut leader in the 3yr old division. A division that is wide open right now.

Have to agree with you here. Lucky will beat these horses. I still think Twirling Candy is the best three year old but won't have enough races under his belt.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

I still think Twirling Candy is the best three year old but won't have enough races under his belt.

Based on what: running down Macias? How about this horse actually beats something, and covers a real distance of ground first? I realize there's really nothing out there but he's not even in the discussion yet.

[Sightseek]

Why does everyone think Ice Box is totally hopeless? I'm unsure whether I would use him on Sunday, especially since the field hasn't even been drawn, but I don't think he is as bad as his Belmont race.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

Have to agree with you here. Lucky will beat these horses. I still think Twirling Candy is the best three year old but won't have enough races under his belt.

Todd Schrupp, is that you?

Seriously, a 3YO who has won a restricted race at a mile on the turf? I mean, I know we all want to be the one to notice the next superstar, and that this group of 3YOs is not particularly strong but Twirling Candy has zero credentials to be mentioned as a serious 3YO right now.

NT

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Todd Schrupp, is that you?

Seriously, a 3YO who has won a restricted race at a mile on the turf? I mean, I know we all want to be the one to notice the next superstar, and that this group of 3YOs is not particularly strong but Twirling Candy has zero credentials to be mentioned as a serious 3YO right now.

NT

Hey all I said is I think he is the best three year old out there. I don't expect anyone else to think that. If he can get some races under his belt he would prove me either wrong or right. He has all the tools to be a good solid horse in a weak class.