"Tea Party" implodes & divides: buh-bye, racist Mark Williams

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

It's known as a sting operation and Acorn was exposed. But you blame it on the people who shot the video and the editing. Ok, whatever you say Riot.

How do you explain all the voter fraud perpetrated by Acorn? I guess that's not their fault either. Acorn must be the victim. It's the people who exposed the voter fraud who are the bad ones.

Rupert: The "sting" pimp-whore kids only got one person at Acorn (after visiting office after office) to talk to them, and that person called the police on them.

The "voter fraud" perpetrated was a bunch of lazy people filling out Mickey Mouse on some voter cards. Did "Mickey Mouse" ever cast a vote? No. So was "voter fraud" done? No. Nothing more than a bunch of lazy people making up names.

Get the truth, Rup. Even Shep Smith tagged Faux News for what they are, on his show. Did you see this today?

Top Fox News correspondent Carl Cameron reportedly said he agrees that the channel supports the Tea Party.

The Daily Beast's Steve Friess reports that he witnessed a conversation between Daily Kos blogger Dante Atkins and Fox News chief political correspondent Carl Cameron at the Netroot Nations conference on Friday, during which Cameron said some people on the channel are boosting the Tea Party and have improperly hyped the Shirley Sherrod story.

Friess says that Atkins had just finished a segment on Fox News about the netroots, and was telling Cameron some of the things he had said on television:

"Cameron...nodded as Atkins repeated comments he made on camera that the Tea Party movement was largely organized by Fox News hosts like Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity.

'Tell me about it,' Cameron smirked.

As the conversation continued, Atkins...cited examples of Fox's undue sway over events. Cameron then offered one of his own.

'The Sherrod case is an example of some at Fox News trying to have more influence than it probably should,' Cameron said.

When confronted with his comments, Cameron told Friess that they had been taken out of context, and that he was defending the standards of the channel's news division. Atkins told Friess that the remarks were accurate and were not taken out of context.

In September, a Fox News producer was caught rallying the crowd at a 9/12 protest.

Are all media outlets "fair and balanced"? No. Hard to find a good investigative journalist nowadays. Is Faux News? Hell no.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

Rupert: The "sting" pimp-whore kids only got one person at Acorn (after visiting office after office) to talk to them, and that person called the police on them.

The "voter fraud" perpetrated was a bunch of lazy people filling out Mickey Mouse on some voter cards. Did "Mickey Mouse" ever cast a vote? No. So was "voter fraud" done? No. Nothing more than a bunch of lazy people making up names.

Get the truth, Rup. Even Shep Smith tagged Faux News for what they are, on his show. Did you see this today?



Are all media outlets "fair and balanced"? No. Hard to find a good investigative journalist nowadays. Is Faux News? Hell no.

There was widespread voter fraud by Acorn all across the country.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...-74288792.html

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

There was widespread voter fraud by Acorn all across the country.

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...-74288792.html

Do you even read what you post, before you link it?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

Do you even read what you post, before you link it?

Yes, I read it. What did I miss?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Yes, I read it. What did I miss?

Support for your contention.

Posting old internet about investigations that are or may be initiated doesn't prove voter fraud.

Can you post the results of those investigations?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

Support for your contention.

Posting old internet about investigations that are or may be initiated doesn't prove voter fraud.

Can you post the results of those investigations?

Here is some history of the rampant corruption at Acorn.

I'll give you a tidbit here but there is 20x more at the website that I will provide you a link to.

WA 2007 Three ACORN employees pleaded guilty, and four more were charged, in the worst case of voter registration fraud in Washington state history. More than 2,000 fraudulent voter registration cards were submitted by the group during a voter registration drive.

PA 2009 Seven ACORN workers in the Pittsburgh area were indicted for submitting falsified voter registration forms. Six of the seven were also indicted for registering voters under an illegal quota system.

NV 2009 Nevada authorities indicted ACORN on 26 counts of voter registration fraud and 13 counts of illegally compensating canvassers. ACORN provided a bonus compensation program called “Blackjack” or “21+” for any canvasser who registered more than 20 voters per shift, which is illegal under Nevada law.

2006 Eight ACORN employees in St. Louis were indicted on federal election fraud charges. Each of the eight faces up to five years in prison for forging signatures and submitting false information.

IN 2008 Election officials in Indiana have thrown out more than 4,000 ACORN-submitted voter registrations after finding they had identical handwriting and included the names of many deceased Indianans, and even the name of a fast food restaurant.

http://www.rottenacorn.com/activityMap.html

[Riot]

Here is some history of the rampant corruption at Acorn.

I'll give you a tidbit here but there is 20x more at the website that I will provide you a link to.

WA 2007 Three ACORN employees pleaded guilty, and four more were charged, in the worst case of voter registration fraud in Washington state history. More than 2,000 fraudulent voter registration cards were submitted by the group during a voter registration drive.

"Rampant corruption"? Do you know how big this org is? How many volunteers, employees?

Three people, 2000 bad voter reg cards submitted. Did Mickey Mouse get to actually vote in any elections?

PA 2009 Seven ACORN workers in the Pittsburgh area were indicted for submitting falsified voter registration forms. Six of the seven were also indicted for registering voters under an illegal quota system.

What was the result of the indictment?

NV 2009 Nevada authorities indicted ACORN on 26 counts of voter registration fraud and 13 counts of illegally compensating canvassers.

What was the result of the indictment?

2006 Eight ACORN employees in St. Louis were indicted on federal election fraud charges. Each of the eight faces up to five years in prison for forging signatures and submitting false information.

What was the result of this indictment?

IN 2008 Election officials in Indiana have thrown out more than 4,000 ACORN-submitted voter registrations after finding they had identical handwriting and included the names of many deceased Indianans, and even the name of a fast food restaurant.

So, we have a huge, nationwide voter registration group with tons of employees and even more volunteers, and the best the "Hate Acorn" site [pretty fair and unbiased, right? ] you quoted as reference for "rampant corruption" and "widespread voter fraud all across the country" can come up with is the above?

A bunch of lazy people filling out Mickey Mouse on voter registration cards? (indeed fraudulent, and I certainly don't dismiss it, but not remotely related to any actual election fixing-voting)

Do you have anything else on where ACORN advised and supported people to do this, etc? That it was an organizationally-driven culture or requirement? Among the thousands and thousands of ACORN members?

Because that hasn't come out in all the ACORN intense examination during the pre-election runup in 2008-2009, from the far right media screaming about it. All they could come up with was the above.

I personally think that's kind of anemic on a national scale, but I grew up in the Chicago area, so my perception of what constitutes "rampant widespread corruption and widespread voter fraud" is probably a bit skewed.

Look, you're free to think what you wish about ACORN, but personally, the whistles hurt my ears

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

Rupert: The "sting" pimp-whore kids only got one person at Acorn (after visiting office after office) to talk to them, and that person called the police on them.

The "voter fraud" perpetrated was a bunch of lazy people filling out Mickey Mouse on some voter cards. Did "Mickey Mouse" ever cast a vote? No. So was "voter fraud" done? No. Nothing more than a bunch of lazy people making up names.

Get the truth, Rup. Even Shep Smith tagged Faux News for what they are, on his show. Did you see this today?



Are all media outlets "fair and balanced"? No. Hard to find a good investigative journalist nowadays. Is Faux News? Hell no.

Fox News has plenty of reporters that are Republicans. There is no doubt about that. Some of these reporters have a bias. There is no doubt about that. But at practically every other news station, 90% of the reporters and anchors are Democrats and many of them have a bias.

I find it amusing that you bash Fox News for showing a bias at times, while you have no problem with all the other news channels that have shown a liberal-leaning bias for years.

I wonder if Dan Rather had a liberal bias. It was hard to tell. LOL.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I wonder if Dan Rather had a liberal bias. It was hard to tell. LOL.

Unlike Breibart who showed actual video albeit in sections, Mr. Rather went with completely forged documents in his quest to bash W.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I find it amusing that you bash Fox News for showing a bias at times, while you have no problem with all the other news channels that have shown a liberal-leaning bias for years.

LOL. Not even remotely true, but I know reality or evidence has short shrift with you

Fox News has plenty of reporters that are Republicans. There is no doubt about that. Some of these reporters have a bias. There is no doubt about that. But at practically every other news station, 90% of the reporters and anchors are Democrats and many of them have a bias.

Are you aware that there is a vast difference between "news" and "opinion"?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

LOL. Not even remotely true, but I know reality or evidence has short shrift with you



Are you aware that there is a vast difference between "news" and "opinion"?

So you do have a problem with the liberal-leaning bias of the other stations? That's funny, you've never mentioned it. You call Fox News "Faux News". I've never heard you knock CBS or any of the other news stations.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

So you do have a problem with the liberal-leaning bias of the other stations? That's funny, you've never mentioned it. You call Fox News "Faux News". I've never heard you knock CBS or any of the other news stations.

If I were going to choose, "media biased to the left-progressive" news orgs, CBS News wouldn't be at the top of the list

But it's your party choice - whatcha got? Post some transcripts or video showing CBS News is as biased as Faux News.