Polytrack devils advocates please respond

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Exactly how I feel which made me ask....

Thats three.
Ok so now that we have those thoughts.
Explain what level of animal(age, distance, class) has to run in it in order for us to get a read on it. Seriously. because you've now cut two year olds out of the mix.
Grass doesn't apply.
So are you saying its gotta be an older horse? because history is littered with older horses who go in and out of form as well.
Near as I can tell you are saying something like an unbeaten olderhorse or mare has to run on it in order to get a read on it.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Thats three.
Ok so now that we have those thoughts.
Explain what level of animal(age, distance, class) has to run in it in order for us to get a read on it. Seriously. because you've now cut two year olds out of the mix.
Grass doesn't apply.
So are you saying its gotta be an older horse? because history is littered with older horses who go in and out of form as well.
Near as I can tell you are saying something like an unbeaten olderhorse or mare has to run on it in order to get a read on it.

How about at least a horse thats run the distance and gone two turns for starters? How about a horse that has run and won at two turns and in a route at more than one track?

Wouldnt that make some sense? Nah...of course not. If doesnt fit your agenda.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

How about at least a horse thats run the distance and gone two turns for starters? How about a horse that has run and won at two turns and in a route at more than one track?

Wouldnt that make some sense? Nah...of course not. If doesnt fit your agenda.

My "agenda" is to root out the redboarders. Its just that in this case Poly debate is an effective tool to do so.
Granted I can see your point and its a valid one. Horses untested at two turns may not be the best example to use in this case.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Thats three.
Ok so now that we have those thoughts.
Explain what level of animal(age, distance, class) has to run in it in order for us to get a read on it. Seriously. because you've now cut two year olds out of the mix.
Grass doesn't apply.
So are you saying its gotta be an older horse? because history is littered with older horses who go in and out of form as well.
Near as I can tell you are saying something like an unbeaten olderhorse or mare has to run on it in order to get a read on it.

Like I said, I'll post my thoughts later, but I'll also be sitting down w/ the PP's with the same thoughts that Dalakani said. Sniper has an excellent point about Happy Ticket by the way, and that is what I was looking for in a race. I'll post my thoughts on most of the card since I'm capping it anyway.