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Old 07-22-2010, 11:37 AM
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Band-aid or not, this is hardly a done deal...god is intent on getting in the way.

http://www.kentucky.com/2010/07/21/1...t-vote-on.html

Martin Cothran, senior policy analyst for The Family Foundation of Kentucky, which opposes expanded gambling, said his group will fight Instant Racing in the legislature.Cothran called the regulatory change a back-door attempt to introduce casino-style gambling into the state."Casino gambling is unconstitutional in our state," Cothran said. "Instant Racing is simply another form of casino gambling, and it is therefore unconstitutional."
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Old 07-22-2010, 11:39 AM
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Band-aid or not, this is hardly a done deal...god is intent on getting in the way.

http://www.kentucky.com/2010/07/21/1...t-vote-on.html

Martin Cothran, senior policy analyst for The Family Foundation of Kentucky, which opposes expanded gambling, said his group will fight Instant Racing in the legislature.Cothran called the regulatory change a back-door attempt to introduce casino-style gambling into the state."Casino gambling is unconstitutional in our state," Cothran said. "Instant Racing is simply another form of casino gambling, and it is therefore unconstitutional."

it's for your own good pais. so glad there are groups around to keep us sinners on the straight and narrow.
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Old 07-22-2010, 11:51 AM
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Band-aid or not, this is hardly a done deal...god is intent on getting in the way.

http://www.kentucky.com/2010/07/21/1...t-vote-on.html

Martin Cothran, senior policy analyst for The Family Foundation of Kentucky, which opposes expanded gambling, said his group will fight Instant Racing in the legislature.Cothran called the regulatory change a back-door attempt to introduce casino-style gambling into the state."Casino gambling is unconstitutional in our state," Cothran said. "Instant Racing is simply another form of casino gambling, and it is therefore unconstitutional."
Aren't you a VP of the Family Foundation of Kentucky?


I agree, this likely won't get done- at least in the next year or two.
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Old 07-22-2010, 12:25 PM
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My membership was revoked when they found out I'm not a virgin.

I had a chat w my favorite conspiracy theorist last night who believes that none of the gaming issues will be addressed or even discussed until after next years elections. That Beshear can't afford to press the issue if he wants to get reelected, meanwhile he will turn to the horse industry and whine that "he asked them to pass it"...and if re elected he will make sure the legislation gets passed.
I happen to think he's right, there won't be any real action taken on expanded gambling here in Kentucky until 2012.
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My membership was revoked when they found out I'm not a virgin.I had a chat w my favorite conspiracy theorist last night who believes that none of the gaming issues will be addressed or even discussed until after next years elections. That Beshear can't afford to press the issue if he wants to get reelected, meanwhile he will turn to the horse industry and whine that "he asked them to pass it"...and if re elected he will make sure the legislation gets passed.
I happen to think he's right, there won't be any real action taken on expanded gambling here in Kentucky until 2012.

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Old 07-22-2010, 05:12 PM
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My membership was revoked when they found out I'm not a virgin.

I had a chat w my favorite conspiracy theorist last night who believes that none of the gaming issues will be addressed or even discussed until after next years elections. That Beshear can't afford to press the issue if he wants to get reelected, meanwhile he will turn to the horse industry and whine that "he asked them to pass it"...and if re elected he will make sure the legislation gets passed.
I happen to think he's right, there won't be any real action taken on expanded gambling here in Kentucky until 2012.
I am not convinced that the tracks, CD in particular, will make the investment necessary to put a significant number of these machines in. Unlike Oaklawn Louisville has competition right across the river which makes these machines clearly 2nd rate. Despite Riot's assertions that all KY GOP politicians are idiots, they have continuously out maneuvered the Dem's on this issue. Now in passing this legislation which they will hail as the help the industry was asking for, when it proves to not be very effective they will simply say that they helped and yet the "greedy" tracks and rich horseman just want more "handouts". And a large majority of public opinion may very well agree with them. They have twisted the issue to the point where the opposition to expanded gambling can actually lay claim to having done more on the issue to help the industry than the party that supported the expansion of gambling. We all know the real story but the general public in KY isn't likely to care about the truth.
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Old 07-22-2010, 06:44 PM
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Well said and I agree with you. I found the comments from keeneland pretty amusing...they don't want too much competition so they would prefer to only have them at ONE lex track but share revenue....meaning, let them put those pos' at the red mile so the trash who use them aren't at our track...we'll wait for the real deal.
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Old 07-22-2010, 07:59 PM
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i find this fascinating. are you saying that you will be betting on races that happened years or months ago?
Yes. Arkansas actually has this in place already, check the Oaklawn website.

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My membership was revoked when they found out I'm not a virgin.

I had a chat w my favorite conspiracy theorist last night who believes that none of the gaming issues will be addressed or even discussed until after next years elections. That Beshear can't afford to press the issue if he wants to get reelected, meanwhile he will turn to the horse industry and whine that "he asked them to pass it"...and if re elected he will make sure the legislation gets passed.
I happen to think he's right, there won't be any real action taken on expanded gambling here in Kentucky until 2012.
I laughe... wait wha, you're not a virgin?

Your conspiracy theorist makes a lot of sense. If Beshear alienates himself from the moderate Republican voters by pushing a gaming bill through he will not get re-elected.
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Old 07-22-2010, 08:19 PM
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oaklawn has had great luck with their games, adding a huge new area to bring in even more of the 'games of skill'. but the closest competition is 5 or more hours away from there. in my case, it's just as quick for me to go to vicksburg to a casino or even shreveport-if i was so inclined. ugh. casinos are awful. but i don't play the instant racing either...
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Band-aid or not, this is hardly a done deal...god is intent on getting in the way.

http://www.kentucky.com/2010/07/21/1...t-vote-on.html

Martin Cothran, senior policy analyst for The Family Foundation of Kentucky, which opposes expanded gambling, said his group will fight Instant Racing in the legislature.Cothran called the regulatory change a back-door attempt to introduce casino-style gambling into the state."Casino gambling is unconstitutional in our state," Cothran said. "Instant Racing is simply another form of casino gambling, and it is therefore unconstitutional."
God has very little to do wth the funding of The Family Foundation

Unless god's name is Ceasar
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