NY Lottery Disqualifies 2 of 3 bidders (UPDATE: Deal finalized)

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Kasept

If only one candidate that fulfills the criteria is left at the end of the process, why wouldn't, and why shouldn't, they be supported?

If you were bidding on a big tee shirt deal that had a variety of hurdles and were the last bidder standing, wouldn't you deserve and expect the contract?

They can not and will not award a single bidder the project when the entire free world either choose not to bid(remember a paultry 3 bidders surfaced) or bidded with caveats in place. The state(Lottery) put forth an RFP and from such the received 1 single potentially complaint bid that may or may not be licensible. Ask yourself this, Do ya think Green and Penn believe Genting is real competition? Why on earth would they submit non complaint RFP's IF they thought Genting was likely suitable partner? You think these groups didn't do their homework?

I suggest the current process will end fairly quickly and hopefully when the new Gov, is in place can re start in jan of 2011. In the mean time NYRA had better instutute Plan B:

No racing 1/1/2011 thru 3/15...Hedge Fund can race at Philly park or Penn Nat

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

They can not and will not award a single bidder the project when the entire free world either choose not to bid(remember a paultry 3 bidders surfaced) or bidded with caveats in place. The state(Lottery) put forth an RFP and from such the received 1 single potentially complaint bid that may or may not be licensible. Ask yourself this, Do ya think Green and Penn believe Genting is real competition? Why on earth would they submit non complaint RFP's IF they thought Genting was likely suitable partner? You think these groups didn't do their homework?

I suggest the current process will end fairly quickly and hopefully when the new Gov, is in place can re start in jan of 2011.

You may be right

[asudevil]

Originally Posted by freddymo

They can not and will not award a single bidder the project when the entire free world either choose not to bid(remember a paultry 3 bidders surfaced) or bidded with caveats in place. The state(Lottery) put forth an RFP and from such the received 1 single potentially complaint bid that may or may not be licensible. Ask yourself this, Do ya think Green and Penn believe Genting is real competition? Why on earth would they submit non complaint RFP's IF they thought Genting was likely suitable partner? You think these groups didn't do their homework?

I suggest the current process will end fairly quickly and hopefully when the new Gov, is in place can re start in jan of 2011. In the mean time NYRA had better instutute Plan B:

No racing 1/1/2011 thru 3/15...Hedge Fund can race at Philly park or Penn Nat

Spot on!! Penn has a billion in cash on it's balance sheet. They have been bottom feeding for a Vegas casino for over a year now. Penn has done massive due dilligence and there is no way they would take the demands of that RFP to heart. They just told the state to drop dead, as did Wynn, MGM, and Harrah's.

[richard]

Genting has a presence in NY allready . They own a piece of Monticello Raceway . http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories...ategory=REGION
About Kien Huat , they were major financiers of Foxwoods, MGM Mirage, etc... they have substantial interests in Genting...this group sure appears enormous and they have an established record of working closely with governments to get projects done... I also get a sense that this group is well positioned to expand their interest to Belmont , in conjunction with a tribe if it is called for , because their CEO G.Michael Brown was CEO of Foxwoods and Seneca gaming group and his law firm is expert in gaming law...
http://www.worldmarketmedia.com/2023...ty-iii-limited
Genting Group's largest hotel in the world and casino in Kuala Lumpor, Genting Highland (pictured) , among others ... and they've recently concluded phase I of Sentosa in Singapore by opening a casino and 4 of 6 planned hotels .


As they say in the pp notes "do not dismiss."

And the first article states in this thread Penn and SL Green are prohibited from any further bids if that comes to pass .
And as far as cancelling the inner track meet Mr Hayward just said that is not going to happen . That meet generates up to $10,000,000 in handle on good days , he said .

[freddymo]

Who said anything about them being without means? BTW have you been to Monticello? It isn't exactly the Wynn.

[richard]

No I have not been to Monticello . I do know every facility needs to be managed so that there is a profit . NY has long wanted an Aqueduct casino developer capable and interested in building a hotel(s) as well . The vision and business model that Genting seems to be successful at is exactly that .

Casino + hotels = resort = profitable...we can only imagine the vast potential of Aqueduct and Belmont as the center piece of great international horse racing resort venues. Let's keep our fingers crossed this deal gets done this time around for the horse industry and hospitality jobs jobs jobs ....

And then NY can focus on cleaning up the NYCOTB rip off .

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by richard

No I have not been to Monticello . I do know every facility needs to be managed so that there is a profit . NY has long wanted an Aqueduct casino developer capable and interested in building a hotel(s) as well . The vision and business model that Genting seems to be successful at is exactly that .

Casino + hotels = resort = profitable...we can only imagine the vast potential of Aqueduct and Belmont as the center piece of great international horse racing resort venues. Let's keep our fingers crossed this deal gets done this time around for the horse industry and hospitality jobs jobs jobs ....

And then NY can focus on cleaning up the NYCOTB rip off .

Resort in Ozone Park? Huge hotels on Jamaica Bay? Atlantic City has a 3600 room hotel waiting to for someone to finance the last stages development and that currently is on hold. Unfortunately Genting will not be approved and the process will continue to fester.

[richard]

Let's see if I have this right Freddy . We're down to a one horse race . And you are betting against the only horse in the race ?

“As long as Genting’s moving ahead, it’s not a setback at all,” said Bennett Liebman, head of Albany Law School’s Racing and Wagering Law Program and a NYRA board member."
http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/nat...ming-race.aspx

Looks like a slam dunk to me . However, history has proven you right time and again Freddy ... 10 years and counting...