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Old 06-27-2010, 11:43 AM
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he'll just say it's a complex situation...
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Old 06-27-2010, 11:44 AM
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he'll just say it's a complex situation...
..and a "teachable" moment
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Old 06-27-2010, 11:58 AM
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and tax it
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:02 PM
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This is unfortunate. Pretty much all of the campaign promises I actually cared about have not come true. Though he got his health insurance law passed, it basically has no teeth and is unlikely to accomplish anything that a national healthcare bill should accomplish.

So he's pretty much 0-fer things I care about.
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:10 PM
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This is unfortunate. Pretty much all of the campaign promises I actually cared about have not come true. Though he got his health insurance law passed, it basically has no teeth and is unlikely to accomplish anything that a national healthcare bill should accomplish.

So he's pretty much 0-fer things I care about.
The Health Care bill will be a bigger disaster than the Pharmaceutical companies robbing the treasury with MMA.
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:32 PM
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i'm figuring that the health care bill will go down in flames, whether thru legislation to repeal it, or thru the legal process.



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Shame on you for believing. Don't take that personally, he fooled a lot of folks who wanted to believe that there was something better than the Bush folks.

The President-as those who came before him- has discovered that some promises are a lot easier to make than to keep. Of course, I'm sure that some of them were never meant to be kept, just to secure votes.
i'm guessing most of them.
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:45 PM
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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

The Obameter: Tracking Obama's Campaign Promises

PolitiFact has compiled more than 500 promises that Barack Obama made during the campaign and is tracking their progress on our Obameter.

We rate their status as Not Yet Rated, In the Works or Stalled. Once we find action is completed, we rate them Promise Kept, Compromise or Promise Broken.




Promise Broken rulings on the Obameter

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...romise-broken/

promises kept:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me.../promise-kept/
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:31 PM
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This is unfortunate. Pretty much all of the campaign promises I actually cared about have not come true. Though he got his health insurance law passed, it basically has no teeth and is unlikely to accomplish anything that a national healthcare bill should accomplish.

So he's pretty much 0-fer things I care about.
Shame on you for believing. Don't take that personally, he fooled a lot of folks who wanted to believe that there was something better than the Bush folks.

The President-as those who came before him- has discovered that some promises are a lot easier to make than to keep. Of course, I'm sure that some of them were never meant to be kept, just to secure votes.
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Old 06-27-2010, 04:26 PM
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This is unfortunate. Pretty much all of the campaign promises I actually cared about have not come true. Though he got his health insurance law passed, it basically has no teeth and is unlikely to accomplish anything that a national healthcare bill should accomplish.

So he's pretty much 0-fer things I care about.
what do you believe the healthcare bill should accomplish?

the insurance companies were/are totally for this just as BP is for Cap and Trade.
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