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Old 06-25-2010, 01:02 PM
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As a bettor, I don't care... I want large fields and Monmouth is providing that to me. Belmont offers very shorts fields.

You seem to be the only one complaining about it...
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As a bettor, I don't care... I want large fields and Monmouth is providing that to me. Belmont offers very shorts fields.

You seem to be the only one complaining about it...
Did I miss a post somewhere? Where was the complaint?
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:11 PM
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For what it's worth, I like fields in the mid-range . 7 or 8 .
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:18 PM
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Did I miss a post somewhere? Where was the complaint?

Post #1 and #12 in this thread...

And

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...3&postcount=12
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:32 PM
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Post #1 and #12 in this thread...

And

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...3&postcount=12
Wow....

I asked a question that was well worth asking. There isn't a 'complaint' wrapped in Post 1 or 12 or anywhere else.
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Old 07-17-2010, 07:44 AM
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i was very interested in becoming a thoroughbred owner for the last 18 months or so. but as a small individual owner i saw the odds against success being clearly impossibe with one or two small claimers.as a result i joined the harness blood slot owners going after purses that make it very easy to pay the monthly vet and training bill.
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As a bettor, I don't care... I want large fields and Monmouth is providing that to me. Belmont offers very shorts fields.

You seem to be the only one complaining about it...
Who the phuck is complaining? I'm asking about the purses because thouigh you may not know it, the winner's share has been greatly decreased from the usual 60% under the system that rewards participation and pays $1,500 to all runners. And if they in fact are going to load up purses for Haskell Week only, then the $1,000,000/day portion of the equation is something of a come on that is short-arming owners that win.
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:16 PM
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Who the phuck is complaining? I'm asking about the purses because thouigh you may not know it, the winner's share has been greatly decreased from the usual 60% under the system that rewards participation and pays $1,500 to all runners. And if they in fact are going to load up purses for Haskell Week only, then the $1,000,000/day portion of the equation is something of a come on that is short-arming owners that win.
Are these owners complaining?
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:26 PM
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Are these owners complaining?
I don't know. They may not complain until they get their statements because they may not realize that the winner's share is lower. It doesn't really matter with the inflated ALW's and MSW's because the increased purse should offset the lower percentage for the winner. But the mid-lower range purses aren't that inflated, and frankly, running versus 10-11 for 50% of $25k isn't that attractive versus running for 60% of say $18k versus 6-7.

My question had nothing to do with the handle portion of the MTH meet. The glaringingly small total purse forthe day caught my attention. I had thought they were giving away a minimum of $700k-$800k daily.
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:32 PM
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:36 PM
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Following opening weekend of May 22 and 23, live racing returns on May 29, May 30, and May 31 (Memorial Day). After the Memorial Day card, Monmouth will race on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays as well as Monday, July 5th (4th of July Holiday) and Monday, Sept. 6 (Labor Day). The $1 million per day in purses more than triples the $331,000 in average daily purses offered at Monmouth in 2009.

false advertising?
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Following opening weekend of May 22 and 23, live racing returns on May 29, May 30, and May 31 (Memorial Day). After the Memorial Day card, Monmouth will race on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays as well as Monday, July 5th (4th of July Holiday) and Monday, Sept. 6 (Labor Day). The $1 million per day in purses more than triples the $331,000 in average daily purses offered at Monmouth in 2009.

false advertising?
Read the first paragraph moron...
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Following opening weekend of May 22 and 23, live racing returns on May 29, May 30, and May 31 (Memorial Day). After the Memorial Day card, Monmouth will race on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays as well as Monday, July 5th (4th of July Holiday) and Monday, Sept. 6 (Labor Day). The $1 million per day in purses more than triples the $331,000 in average daily purses offered at Monmouth in 2009.

false advertising?
if, at the end of the meet, the average daily purses aren't a $1 Million, then yes it is false advertising.. won't know until then, though, will we?
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:32 PM
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124 horses entered at Monmouth in 12 races...

68 horses entered at Belmont in 9 races...

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As a bettor, I don't care... I want large fields and Monmouth is providing that to me. Belmont offers very shorts fields.

You seem to be the only one complaining about it...
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Are these owners complaining?
not a very convincing arguement you have presented. the topic has nothing to do with belmont.
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:21 PM
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Who the phuck is complaining? I'm asking about the purses because thouigh you may not know it, the winner's share has been greatly decreased from the usual 60% under the system that rewards participation and pays $1,500 to all runners. And if they in fact are going to load up purses for Haskell Week only, then the $1,000,000/day portion of the equation is something of a come on that is short-arming owners that win.
As far as the part about watering down the winner's share, I am pretty sure the reason for the $1500 to all runners is a way of rewarding the local owners/trainers who are "out-stocked" by the super trainers shipping in. All things considered, I think it's a great idea.

Short-arming owners that win??? you are kidding, right? $70-$80k for maidens, NW1X, and NW2X isn't short arming anyone even if $9000 comes off the top to the also-rans
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:28 PM
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Short-arming owners that win??? you are kidding, right? $70-$80k for maidens, NW1X, and NW2X isn't short arming anyone even if $9000 comes off the top to the also-rans
Addressed that above. It's not about the ALW/MSW races. It's the cheap races that are running today (only 2 ALW's) that caught my attention..
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:33 PM
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Addressed that above. It's not about the ALW/MSW races. It's the cheap races that are running today (only 2 ALW's) that caught my attention..
I totally agree about the lesser claiming races. They are MUCH tougher than elsewhere and horses usually have to drop to win.
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Old 06-25-2010, 01:41 PM
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I totally agree about the lesser claiming races. They are MUCH tougher than elsewhere and horses usually have to drop to win.
So... the $1,500 to run in these tougher claimers adds the incentive to enter? I would imagine this is why we still see over 10 entries per average on a "bad" day of races like today.

Seems to be working so far.
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