Obama Admin. to Sue Arizona

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I don't see too many people defending the Obama Administration on this one, not even his most loyal Derby Trail supporters.

I guess you could compliment Obama for doing what he thinks is right. But as I said before, I think it is a terrible move politically. Public opinion is very one-sided on this issue.

The only time liberal office holders care about public opinion is when they are forced to -- at election time.

Otherwise they are too busy being arrogant and condescending to worry about what we think.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by joeydb

The only time liberal office holders care about public opinion is when they are forced to -- at election time.

Otherwise they are too busy being arrogant and condescending to worry about what we think.

Give me a f'in break Joey.

Republicans are the standard bearer for worrying about the common man? This thread is so thick that the sh*t is flowing out of my keyboard.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Give me a f'in break Joey.

Republicans are the standard bearer for worrying about the common man? This thread is so thick that the sh*t is flowing out of my keyboard.

It may take 60 days but Obama will act on your sh^t flow

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Give me a f'in break Joey.

Republicans are the standard bearer for worrying about the common man? This thread is so thick that the sh*t is flowing out of my keyboard.

Where do you stand on the issue? Should the Obama Administration file suit against Arizona to stop them from implementing this law or not?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Where do you stand on the issue? Should the Obama Administration file suit against Arizona to stop them from implementing this law or not?

To me, the law is racial profiling and that should be at least looked into further. If a Federal lawsuit is what it takes, then so be it. This is a major intiative..why the rush to make it a law? How about a referendum first?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by GBBob

To me, the law is racial profiling and that should be at least looked into further. If a Federal lawsuit is what it takes, then so be it. This is a major intiative..why the rush to make it a law? How about a referendum first?

Let me ask you a question. Let's say there is a fairly nice, middle-class, black neighborhood. And let's say that there have been some young, white skinhead types sneaking into that neighborhood at night and committing burglaries, assaults, and that type of thing.

If the police are patroling the neighborhood at night and they see a car with a couple of young white guys in it, should they pull the car over? If they pulled it over, I guess you could consider that racial-profiling. Would racial-profiling be ok in this case or is it never ok?

[Cannon Shell]

It may be called racial profiling but since 99.98% of illegal aliens in AZ are Mexican who exactly should they be looking at? How do you not racially profile (or in this case nationally profile) when virtually everyone you are looking for is of one particular race/nationalty?

[Nascar1966]

Its a shame O'Dumbass can't be impeached for being a f ckup. It wouldn't suprise me if he goes down as the worst President in history. Hopefully the American public will wake in 2012 and realize how worthless he is.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by GBBob

To me, the law is racial profiling and that should be at least looked into further. If a Federal lawsuit is what it takes, then so be it. This is a major intiative..why the rush to make it a law? How about a referendum first?

How much longer do you want these states to wait? The bureaucrats in DC could care less about the illegals. Yes I am talking about both Democrats and Repubicans. We have a worthless President who would rather go golfing then address the issues that face this country. Maybe O'Dumbass had an illegal shine his golf shoes for him before he played a round of golf. These worthless f cking illegals need to be dealt with so we wont be wasting any more tax money. Obviously O'Dumbass doesn't see that way. I applaud the Governor of Arizona for taking the steps to combat these illiterate not worth a sh t illegals.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

How much longer do you want these states to wait? The bureaucrats in DC could care less about the illegals. Yes I am talking about both Democrats and Repubicans. We have a worthless President who would rather go golfing then address the issues that face this country. Maybe O'Dumbass had an illegal shine his golf shoes for him before he played a round of golf. These worthless f cking illegals need to be dealt with so we wont be wasting any more tax money. Obviously O'Dumbass doesn't see that way. I applaud the Governor of Arizona for taking the steps to combat these illiterate not worth a sh t illegals.

that's really ridiculous. actually, most immigrants are some of the nicest, hardest working people you'd ever meet.

as for the govt not caring, you're right, they don't. know why? money. pay attention to any raids done by INS. invariably, they are against companies who are paying illegals under the table. that means no s.s., no medicaid tax, no state or federal taxes paid on these employees. that means the govt is getting ripped off.
now, as for those working above the table? they pay in every tax you pay in, but unlike you, they never get anything back for it. they'll never draw s.s. benefits upon retirement, as they used a fake #. they can't apply for medicaid either, as they don't really exist in the system. yet they paid all that money, all those years-just like millions of others just like them. so, no, the govt doesn't mind that at all-these illegals you disparage so much are helping keep our social programs afloat. they're helping to keep local, state and the feds afloat. they pay in, and can never get back. they don't get on assistance, as that's a sure way to get the boot.
so, that all explains why there is not, and will not be, anything done regarding immigration. it would be too expensive. anyone granted citizenship would be eligible for everything you and i are eligible for-but the pay in wouldn't be any higher.

oh, and the states....they really don't care either, it's all window dressing.
any illegals az arrests will be back on the street. state can't deport them, and the feds won't do it.

[Danzig]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100624/..._take_our_jobs


and i just saw this article, which is related to the discussion in this thread.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Give me a f'in break Joey.

Republicans are the standard bearer for worrying about the common man? This thread is so thick that the sh*t is flowing out of my keyboard.

Sorry Bob, but what I said about liberals in government is true more often than not.

Obama is giving us the "We know what's good for you" routine. Don't want the government to take over health care? Too bad -- we know what's good for you.

Want the border secured? Sorry -- we don't think that's necessary.

Oh yeah -- that big oil spill -- well, you ought to be cutting back on your energy use anyway, so how about a big honking "Carbon Tax" -- we think that's best.

It's exactly what the Dems are doing -- long on arrogance and short on political sense and gray matter.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Sorry Bob, but what I said about liberals in government is true more often than not.

Obama is giving us the "We know what's good for you" routine. Don't want the government to take over health care? Too bad -- we know what's good for you.

Want the border secured? Sorry -- we don't think that's necessary.

Oh yeah -- that big oil spill -- well, you ought to be cutting back on your energy use anyway, so how about a big honking "Carbon Tax" -- we think that's best.

It's exactly what the Dems are doing -- long on arrogance and short on political sense and gray matter.

I guess it depends on what your thoughts are on the subjects you listed above. There is no way I can blame Obama, or would have blamed Bush, for how he reacted to the spill. As far as the borders, I have said here before they should be secured, but I also think an amnesty plan needs to be developed for the Illegals already here. You (Republicans) think your view point is just the right one and that anyone opposing ( basically half the country) is a pinko, commie freak who is wrong. The Republicans that come to mind have always been about big business, big oil and never gave a shi*t about the working man. You guys are just so paranoid about big government that you just knee jerk react to anything Obama does as being wrong.

And that's where you (Republicans) lose your credibility. When you don't focus on the things you really think are important, then all the crap you throw against the wall gets ignored. Obama is not the anti-Christ. He just happens to be a Democrat and that drives you crazy. Kind of like I'll never understand a Republican..politically at least.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I guess it depends on what your thoughts are on the subjects you listed above. There is no way I can blame Obama, or would have blamed Bush, for how he reacted to the spill. As far as the borders, I have said here before they should be secured, but I also think an amnesty plan needs to be developed for the Illegals already here. You (Republicans) think your view point is just the right one and that anyone opposing ( basically half the country) is a pinko, commie freak who is wrong. The Republicans that come to mind have always been about big business, big oil and never gave a shi*t about the working man. You guys are just so paranoid about big government that you just knee jerk react to anything Obama does as being wrong.

And that's where you (Republicans) lose your credibility. When you don't focus on the things you really think are important, then all the crap you throw against the wall gets ignored. Obama is not the anti-Christ. He just happens to be a Democrat and that drives you crazy. Kind of like I'll never understand a Republican..politically at least.

Sorry to jump in the middle of you guy's cat fight but who do you think gives the working man his job ? They are the big bad businessman that are about making products providing services that provide a place for that middle class man or woman a place to go make money.
The people in government who take money from corporations through lobbyists are the people you should have a gripe with and I dont care if they are a Democrat or a Republican they all do it . Eliminate campaign contributions from large corporations and the people who work for them.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Honu

Sorry to jump in the middle of you guy's cat fight but who do you think gives the working man his job ? They are the big bad businessman that are about making products providing services that provide a place for that middle class man or woman a place to go make money.
The people in government who take money from corporations through lobbyists are the people you should have a gripe with and I dont care if they are a Democrat or a Republican they all do it . Eliminate campaign contributions from large corporations and the people who work for them.

I agree with the second part of what you wrote..but doubt that realistically that is ever going to happen.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I agree with the second part of what you wrote..but doubt that realistically that is ever going to happen.

Me too and you know what it really really sucks ......What this country needs so badly is an honest politician but that in itself is just hysterical.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I guess it depends on what your thoughts are on the subjects you listed above. There is no way I can blame Obama, or would have blamed Bush, for how he reacted to the spill. As far as the borders, I have said here before they should be secured, but I also think an amnesty plan needs to be developed for the Illegals already here. You (Republicans) think your view point is just the right one and that anyone opposing ( basically half the country) is a pinko, commie freak who is wrong. The Republicans that come to mind have always been about big business, big oil and never gave a shi*t about the working man. You guys are just so paranoid about big government that you just knee jerk react to anything Obama does as being wrong.

And that's where you (Republicans) lose your credibility. When you don't focus on the things you really think are important, then all the crap you throw against the wall gets ignored. Obama is not the anti-Christ. He just happens to be a Democrat and that drives you crazy. Kind of like I'll never understand a Republican..politically at least.

The Democrats used to be for the "working man" a while back, but since the 1965 "Great Society" stuff Johnson pushed, they've been more for the welfare recipient.

If you want to keep more of what you earn on the job, the Republicans are the better option. Not that any politicians are that great -- but given the choice I'll take the ones who take less of my money every week.