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Old 06-17-2010, 10:16 AM
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So thank her for two races.

And you don't see anything wrong with that?

How about we just shut the sport down completely? It's obvious cowardice is rewarded and praised.
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Old 06-17-2010, 10:21 AM
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Oh dear.

Of all the times for Steve to be off the satellite airwaves! Good for him for saying what many of us are thinking.
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Old 06-17-2010, 10:26 AM
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Oh dear.

Of all the times for Steve to be off the satellite airwaves! Good for him for saying what many of us are thinking.
You can tell a few of the dearly de-darted are still raging on the Paulick Report.
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Old 06-17-2010, 10:25 AM
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So thank her for two races.

And you don't see anything wrong with that?

How about we just shut the sport down completely? It's obvious cowardice is rewarded and praised.
So even though they wanted to take on Rachel, they are cowards? Even though they want to run against the best colts in the country, they are cowards? They are cowards if they don't try to choose a really tough race every time?

Is it like that in boxing to? Should a boxer try to look for the toughest fight he can find every time? If he doesn't, is he a coward? That is absurd and you know it. You point for a big fight or a big race, but you don't want to have really tough ones all the way there. You want some of the preps to be relatively easy. There is nothing wrong with that.
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Old 06-17-2010, 11:27 AM
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Is it like that in boxing to? Should a boxer try to look for the toughest fight he can find every time? If he doesn't, is he a coward? That is absurd and you know it. You point for a big fight or a big race, but you don't want to have really tough ones all the way there. You want some of the preps to be relatively easy. There is nothing wrong with that.
Remind me of the last "prep" fight Mayweather had. The champion takes on the #1 contender to the belt, not a bunch of scrubs he used to beat up in his neighborhood gym.

Besides, how many f'ing preps does she need for the Classic? If she's "prepping" in June for the Breeders' Cup Classic, that doesn't say much for her condition.
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Old 06-17-2010, 11:20 AM
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So thank her for two races.

And you don't see anything wrong with that?

How about we just shut the sport down completely? It's obvious cowardice is rewarded and praised.

I agree that cowardice is rewarded and praised. But what's even more rewarded and praised is retiring good horses and taking them out of the game. "It's just good business". "We want to do the best for the horse". Clap clap clap.

Shame on the Mosses for bringing Zenyatta back and only racing twice in the East. And the nerve they have of announcing her schedule far enough in advance that any filly/mare in the country could meet her if desired by the connections.

Shame, too, on Zenyatta for excelling on two surfaces, while "really" good horses can apparently only excel on one, dirt.

Shame on the Mosses for aiming so low as to win a 2nd BC Classic.

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Old 06-17-2010, 11:23 AM
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Dunbar, I will bet you that Zenyatta will not race again this year outside of the Pacific time zone. Name your price. Breeders Cup Classic on dirt? I laughed.
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Old 06-17-2010, 12:01 PM
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Dunbar, I will bet you that Zenyatta will not race again this year outside of the Pacific time zone. Name your price. Breeders Cup Classic on dirt? I laughed.
They're not even taking her out of her stall to walk a couple hundred yards to race in the Hollywood Gold Cup at her home track at her "preferred" distance. What Rocky Mountains exist between her stall and the race track at Hollywook Park?
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Old 06-17-2010, 12:25 PM
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Damn Steve! You were Pissed!
Best part of the interview was when you hung up on Davidowitz.Enjoyed the logical talk wit Seth.
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Old 06-17-2010, 12:29 PM
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I say, once again, that you guys are absolutely insane if you think Zenyatta is crossing the Mississippi again this year. Insane.

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Dunbar, I will bet you that Zenyatta will not race again this year outside of the Pacific time zone. Name your price. Breeders Cup Classic on dirt? I laughed.


Given that you seem to think there is no chance she is running in the BC Classic, how about giving me 2-1? That should be pretty easy money for you, if you're so sure she's staying in California.


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Old 06-17-2010, 01:23 PM
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I say, once again, that you guys are absolutely insane if you think Zenyatta is crossing the Mississippi again this year. Insane.
Zenyatta has crossed the Mississippi, I must had missed that.

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Shame on the Mosses for bringing Zenyatta back and only racing twice in the East. And the nerve they have of announcing her schedule far enough in advance that any filly/mare in the country could meet her if desired by the connections.
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Yes, shame on Moss for annoucing Zenyatta's retirement while keeping her in training, then announce in late January that they were going to the Apple Blossom.

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Shame, too, on Zenyatta for excelling on two surfaces, while "really" good horses can apparently only excel on one, dirt.

Shame on the Mosses for aiming so low as to win a 2nd BC Classic.

--Dunbar
Wow running 2 dirt races in 3 years means they excel? interesting. Why did they skip last year's Apple Blossom?

(Hey Riot, this is how you seperate a post)

......And why in the heck is the thoroughbredracingradionetwork site down?
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Old 06-17-2010, 03:07 PM
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Dunbar, I will bet you that Zenyatta will not race again this year outside of the Pacific time zone. Name your price. Breeders Cup Classic on dirt? I laughed.
Why would you possibly think that they aren't going to run in the BC Classic? Of course she will run in the BC Classic. The only way she won't is if she gets hurt. The BC Classic is their goal and has been all year.

She will probably only run twice between now and then. I guess if she loses one of her next two races, that could change their plans. But otherwise she will definitely be there.
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Old 06-17-2010, 03:11 PM
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Why would you possibly think that they aren't going to run in the BC Classic? Of course she will run in the BC Classic. The only way she won't is if she gets hurt. The BC Classic is their goal and has been all year.

She will probably only run twice between now and then. I guess if she loses one of her next two races, that could change their plans. But otherwise she will definitely be there.
They're not going to run in the Breeders Cup Classic, quite simply, because 20 for 20 will be on the line, and if there's a chance she could lose, I'd bet a bazillion dollars they'll keep her in SoCal this November to go for that all-time mark.

After all the hemming and hawing about her schedule in the past, I don't know why it's suddenly a foregone conclusion that she'll be in Louisville this November.
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Old 06-17-2010, 03:21 PM
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Whats up with this surface issue crap? I hate synthetics, BUT ITS PART OF THE GAME, AND TAKES NOTHING AWAY FROM ZENYATTA.
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Old 06-17-2010, 03:24 PM
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They're not going to run in the Breeders Cup Classic, quite simply, because 20 for 20 will be on the line, and if there's a chance she could lose, I'd bet a bazillion dollars they'll keep her in SoCal this November to go for that all-time mark.

After all the hemming and hawing about her schedule in the past, I don't know why it's suddenly a foregone conclusion that she'll be in Louisville this November.
I'll bet you however much money you want when the time comes. Winning the BC Classic is much more important to them than beating Pepper's Pride's streak.
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Old 06-17-2010, 03:26 PM
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If that were the case, she's be retired right now. SHe's in training for some sort of Zenyatta victory tour and to set the all-time modern day wins mark. I just can't imagine that is going to include a trip to Louisville. Given what we know about the connections and the kid gloves with which they handle the mare, going to Louisville would be beyond out of character.
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I'll bet you however much money you want when the time comes. Winning the BC Classic is much more important to them than beating Pepper's Pride's streak.
Agree, if shes healthy shes at Churchill this year. Regardless of how good/deep the group is coming up, they will not skip the Classic.
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Old 06-17-2010, 04:24 PM
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I'll bet you however much money you want when the time comes. Winning the BC Classic is much more important to them than beating Pepper's Pride's streak.
Let me get this straight.

You want to take the bet that she will run, but only once she's definitely going to run?
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They're not going to run in the Breeders Cup Classic, quite simply, because 20 for 20 will be on the line, and if there's a chance she could lose, I'd bet a bazillion dollars they'll keep her in SoCal this November to go for that all-time mark.

After all the hemming and hawing about her schedule in the past, I don't know why it's suddenly a foregone conclusion that she'll be in Louisville this November.

You keep repeating that they won't run her in the Classic, but you got strangely quiet when I accepted your offer of a wager on the subject.

Here's your challenge:

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Dunbar, I will bet you that Zenyatta will not race again this year outside of the Pacific time zone. Name your price. Breeders Cup Classic on dirt? I laughed.
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Given that you seem to think there is no chance she is running in the BC Classic, how about giving me 2-1? That should be pretty easy money for you, if you're so sure she's staying in California.

You asked me to name my price. I did. Hello? Is anyone there?

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You keep repeating that they won't run her in the Classic, but you got strangely quiet when I accepted your offer of a wager on the subject.

Here's your challenge:



Here's how I responded:




You asked me to name my price. I did. Hello? Is anyone there?

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Sure, send me a PM. We'll figure out the details. I'm confident she won't be running on dirt at all this season.
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