Question for Arlington fans

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

Do people then claim those big drop downs off of them and actually get decent horses on the cheap and have pretty good success with them in subsequent races? Seems like it might be good for other owners at Arlington...being able to find horses at bargain prices.

According to formulator stats the owner/trainer combo with claiming horses is 103 starts
43 wins 42%
78 itm 76%

No one has claimed any of his horses since the owner/trainer got together a year ago in May.

[Scav]

They also have a bunch of old veterans that live in the hyperbaric for weeks on end and then run a couple good races till their limbs give out.

He claims for 20k and they are in for 15k, if it was a bad claim they are almost automatically in for 5k.

Those are the only races that are going up here right now also so ole FCC is paradise.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Scav

They also have a bunch of old veterans that live in the hyperbaric for weeks on end and then run a couple good races till their limbs give out.

He claims for 20k and they are in for 15k, if it was a bad claim they are almost automatically in for 5k.

Those are the only races that are going up here right now also so ole FCC is paradise.

Not to mention that outside of Bennett and maybe bruggerman there arent many outfits here that claim much ouside of 10k claimers and less.

If you are willing to lose money, winning races at tracks like AP isnt that difficult.

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Not to mention that outside of Bennett and maybe bruggerman there arent many outfits here that claim much ouside of 10k claimers and less.

If you are willing to lose money, winning races at tracks like AP isnt that difficult.

i haven't been following arlington as much this year but Larry Rivelli was some what of a drop-and-pop trainer last i recalled, was this only when he was under FCC?

by the way i totally think michael gill would give fcc a run for his money, had he chosen not to sell off all his horses and quit the game

-bt-

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

According to formulator stats the owner/trainer combo with claiming horses is 103 starts
43 wins 42%
78 itm 76%

No one has claimed any of his horses since the owner/trainer got together a year ago in May.

They have had 13 horses claimed from them during the AP meet alone.

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

They have had 13 horses claimed from them during the AP meet alone.

I guess formulator missed them or formulator owner stats don't pick up on shared ownerships. I noticed that with other owner/trainer stats. Some of those horses may not have run back yet as well

[brianwspencer]

Here are the 17 horses claimed off of them at the meet so far:

Tatibitati claimed for $10K 6/12: Hasn't run back
Miss M V P claimed for $17.5K 6/11: Hasn't run back
G L Kiwi claimed for $5K 6/11: Hasn't run back
Exchanging Kisses claimed for $25K 6/10: Hasn't run back
Alarming Afleet claimed for $7.5K 6/6: Entered back MTO Friday
Light My Saphire claimed for $5K 6/5: Hasn't run back
Embers Glowing claimed for $16K 6/5: Hasn't run back
It's About Image claimed for $10K 6/3: Hasn't run back
Dino Dominic claimed for $5K 5/23: 5th in race from which he was claimed, 10th in next start 6/13 at same level
Jansdream claimed for $10K 5/22: Won conditoned N3L day of claim, last of 8 next out against NW1X allowance company at 11-1
Miles and Miles claimed for $5K 5/21: Entered on the lawn Friday on class hike
Wake Up Now claimed for $5K 5/14: 2nd next out when shipped to Fairmount
Stepaside claimed for $16K 5/13: Hasn't run back
Flying by the Pole claimed for $10K 5/13: 4th in conditioned N3L day of claim, last of 6 next out in $35K stakes race at Canterbury 5/31, then 5th against $40K N3L company at AP 6/11
Big Al claimed for $10K 5/9: 2nd against open 10K foes day of claim, 5th next out when hiked into $16K starter allowance
Sarah's Tiger claimed for $17.5K 5/6: 10th and 6th in next two starts against slightly tougher
Proud Expression claimed for $16K 5/2: 2nd against open $16K 3yos day of claim, last of 5 against 3-up $25K N3L claimers next out

[Port Conway Lane]

There is an entry tomorrow owned by Frank C Calabrese. When filtering the owner/trainer stats, unless previous horses who have run have been listed under that exact name formulator will not pick them up.

Thank you guys for correcting my error.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

There is an entry tomorrow owned by Frank C Calabrese. When filtering the owner/trainer stats, unless previous horses who have run have been listed under that exact name formulator will not pick them up.

Thank you guys for correcting my error.

I may be told otherwise from my limited plays from Arlington this year, but Catalano is not as effective without the Calabrese angle, sure he still wins at a good rate but it's not as outerworldly as once was.

[MISTERGEE]

It is kinda funny to think but probably true that Catalano is not doing as well without Calabrese at AP. , but he doesnt suck either over 29 % winners poor guy

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by CSC

I may be told otherwise from my limited plays from Arlington this year, but Catalano is not as effective without the Calabrese angle, sure he still wins at a good rate but it's not as outerworldly as once was.

I certainly couldn't dispute that, at least not accurately.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by CSC

I may be told otherwise from my limited plays from Arlington this year, but Catalano is not as effective without the Calabrese angle, sure he still wins at a good rate but it's not as outerworldly as once was.

He isnt claiming much anymore, has a completely different type of barn now.

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Here are the 17 horses claimed off of them at the meet so far:

Tatibitati claimed for $10K 6/12: Hasn't run back
Miss M V P claimed for $17.5K 6/11: Hasn't run back
G L Kiwi claimed for $5K 6/11: Hasn't run back
Exchanging Kisses claimed for $25K 6/10: Hasn't run back
Alarming Afleet claimed for $7.5K 6/6: Entered back MTO Friday
Light My Saphire claimed for $5K 6/5: Hasn't run back
Embers Glowing claimed for $16K 6/5: Hasn't run back
It's About Image claimed for $10K 6/3: Hasn't run back
Dino Dominic claimed for $5K 5/23: 5th in race from which he was claimed, 10th in next start 6/13 at same level
Jansdream claimed for $10K 5/22: Won conditoned N3L day of claim, last of 8 next out against NW1X allowance company at 11-1
Miles and Miles claimed for $5K 5/21: Entered on the lawn Friday on class hike
Wake Up Now claimed for $5K 5/14: 2nd next out when shipped to Fairmount
Stepaside claimed for $16K 5/13: Hasn't run back
Flying by the Pole claimed for $10K 5/13: 4th in conditioned N3L day of claim, last of 6 next out in $35K stakes race at Canterbury 5/31, then 5th against $40K N3L company at AP 6/11
Big Al claimed for $10K 5/9: 2nd against open 10K foes day of claim, 5th next out when hiked into $16K starter allowance
Sarah's Tiger claimed for $17.5K 5/6: 10th and 6th in next two starts against slightly tougher
Proud Expression claimed for $16K 5/2: 2nd against open $16K 3yos day of claim, last of 5 against 3-up $25K N3L claimers next out

Thanks for the info Brian. Doesn't look like any have really stepped up off of the claim...although most have only run back once or twice.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

Thanks for the info Brian. Doesn't look like any have really stepped up off of the claim...although most have only run back once or twice.

Most have run in seemingly ridiculous spots post claim.

2 horses claimed out of the 10nw3 level ran back in a stake and an allowance race.

[MISTERGEE]

even so they will probably continue a downward spiral or just disapear

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Most have run in seemingly ridiculous spots post claim.

2 horses claimed out of the 10nw3 level ran back in a stake and an allowance race.

How long is jail time in Illinois...before the new connections can run the horse back in the same spot or drop it even lower?