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[ateamstupid]

Rachel's figure will likely come back pretty big, running 1 1/8 in 1:48.78 compared to the Foster's 1:49.37. Obviously the differing paces had something to do with it, but still interesting. Blame is a serious horse, he might be the one to upset the apple cart in the BCC.

[Port Conway Lane]

She again ran 2/5 faster than the boys,and these boys were better than the other ones. I may have to reconsider which of Rachel's races was more impressive

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

She again ran 2/5 faster than the boys,and these boys were better than the other ones. I may have to reconsider which of Rachel's races was more impressive

It was her best effort this year, however I would be leary of these comparisons. I have often seen these raw number comparisons mislead a handicapper. I think if she was in the Stephen Foster she would have had a hard time holding off Blame, that's just my opinion but you can't really compare the 2 races.

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by CSC

It was her best effort this year, however I would be leary of these comparisons. I have often seen these raw number comparisons mislead a handicapper. I think if she was in the Stephen Foster she would have had a hard time holding off Blame, that's just my opinion but you can't really compare the 2 races.

No doubt about that.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by CSC

It was her best effort this year, however I would be leary of these comparisons. I have often seen these raw number comparisons mislead a handicapper. I think if she was in the Stephen Foster she would have had a hard time holding off Blame, that's just my opinion but you can't really compare the 2 races.

I dont think anyone will argue she would have won the Foster...
I think she would have ran 3rd in the Foster today, the top 2 are pretty good. Lets not compare who Rachel beat to Battle Plan, I doubt Battle Plan comes back to her the way Jessica Is **** did.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I dont think anyone will argue she would have won the Foster...
I think she would have ran 3rd in the Foster today, the top 2 are pretty good. Lets not compare who Rachel beat to Battle Plan, I doubt Battle Plan comes back to her the way Jessica Is **** did.

Maybe, but remember this Rachel often looks better when she is much the best in the race, this race posed no really challenges to a horse in her supposed caliber. She did what she had to do.

[LARHAGE]

Blame ran huge, was there even one horse to win coming off the pace today on dirt? To run down a horse like Battle Plan makes it even more impressive also throwing in his post and wide trip, that was amazing.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by LARHAGE

Blame ran huge, was there even one horse to win coming off the pace today on dirt? To run down a horse like Battle Plan makes it even more impressive also throwing in his post and wide trip, that was amazing.

I basicley just posted the same thing in the other thread, Blame is really good.

[kgar311]

I understand by the many comments on here that there were high hopes for Battle Plan. And Blame certainly didnt have the best of trips to run him down, but I just couldnt help but notice, and I saw this watching live, that about 100yrs from the wire BP was looking for a place to lay down. He had everything his own way and basically stopped at the wire. Although it was a solid G1 win for Blame I just didnt see it as awesome. BP put up zero fight at the wire.

[kgar311]

Anyone care to knock Rachel now, she would of won that race by open lengths

[Travis Stone]

To run down Battle Plan off those fractions is pretty strong... and he'll get 10f no problem. Very impressive race by Blame.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

To run down Battle Plan off those fractions is pretty strong... and he'll get 10f no problem. Very impressive race by Blame.

Makes you wonder what's up with Regal Ransom.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Makes you wonder what's up with Regal Ransom.

Sheikhed

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Makes you wonder what's up with Regal Ransom.

I believe he's coming back in the Suburban.

Regal Ransom stole the Super Derby, Blame ran huge to nearly catch him, and he's progressed since. I think he's legit... Battle Plan is no slouch, especially with an easy lead.

Suddenly, the handicap division has a pulse again, though weak, it's a pulse none-the-less. Hopefully Zenyatta will decide to join it at some point.

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I believe he's coming back in the Suburban.

Regal Ransom stole the Super Derby, Blame ran huge to nearly catch him, and he's progressed since. I think he's legit... Battle Plan is no slouch, especially with an easy lead.

Suddenly, the handicap division has a pulse again, though weak, it's a pulse none-the-less. Hopefully Zenyatta will decide to join it at some point.

November 6th

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

November 6th

Definitely. I hope for her sake, Horse of the Year isn't decided before then.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

Definitely. I hope for her sake, Horse of the Year isn't decided before then.

why, is horse of the year all that matters?

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Rachel's figure will likely come back pretty big, running 1 1/8 in 1:48.78 compared to the Foster's 1:49.37. Obviously the differing paces had something to do with it, but still interesting. Blame is a serious horse, he might be the one to upset the apple cart in the BCC.

Agree, he had every reason to get beat chasing that pace.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

Agree, he had every reason to get beat chasing that pace.

Not to mention he was 3-4 wide around both turns.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Rachel's figure will likely come back pretty big, running 1 1/8 in 1:48.78 compared to the Foster's 1:49.37. Obviously the differing paces had something to do with it, but still interesting. Blame is a serious horse, he might be the one to upset the apple cart in the BCC.

Throw a number out.