Obama's Oil Spill

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Less dependence on oil is a pipedream. Pardon the pun

I can (in Florida...not sure how this would work in other parts) convert my residence to complete solar for 150K... AND store enough energy to SELL energy BACK to Progress Energy (our local electric company).... yet I PAY my electric company to cool my house BY AN OIL FIRED ENERGY PLANT... You hear nothing about this... From the same people in charge getting their pockets lined by big oil....

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

I can (in Florida...not sure how this would work in other parts) convert my residence to complete solar for 150K... AND store enough energy to SELL energy BACK to Progress Energy (our local electric company).... yet I PAY my electric company to cool my house BY AN OIL FIRED ENERGY PLANT... You hear nothing about this... From the same people in charge getting their pockets lined by big oil....

Wouldnt 150k be considerd a little pricey for the avg American?

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Wouldnt 150k be considerd a little pricey for the avg American?

40 inch Plasma TV's were 8K 10 years ago... Of course Solar has been around for decades and Big Oil has squelched any advancements so 150K to run AND sell energy is where we are now....

Of course amortized over 15 years ( given the typical 30 year mortgage) along with the (Obama GREEN) feeble tax incentives, you still would not only be living energy independent, but would actually be making money from your residence...

The last thing they need to hear.

Until Obama sells the Sun.

to BP.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

40 inch Plasma TV's were 8K 10 years ago... Of course Solar has been around for decades and Big Oil has squelched any advancements so 150K to run AND sell energy is where we are now....

Of course amortized over 15 years ( given the typical 30 year mortgage) along with the (Obama GREEN) feeble tax incentives, you still would not only be living energy independent, but would actually be making money from your residence...

The last thing they need to hear.

All very true but doesnt change the fact that our dependence on oil is not ever going to be significantly decreased in our lifetimes without some unforseen technical advance. The fact that the oil barons have the most money isnt going to change.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

All very true but doesnt change the fact that our dependence on oil is not ever going to be significantly decreased in our lifetimes without some unforseen technical advance. The fact that the oil barons have the most money isnt going to change.

I would contend that global development (India, China, Vietnam, etc) is the source of strain on global oil resources that we are experiencing relative to our past.
And perhaps it is all relative; we are using less, but the world is using more. In the 70's and 80's we were sucking it down like water. But then again "Made in the USA" meant something and now it means nothing.... In the face of this, I really think we have definitely made drastic improvements relative to the rest of the planet. Hydrogen fuel cells, solar, wind... it is the only answer - and it MUST occur in our time. The only reason it won't is because it has become a multi-billion dollar cottage to discourage it's development.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

I would contend that global development (India, China, Vietnam, etc) is the source of strain on global oil resources that we are experiencing relative to our past.
And perhaps it is all relative; we are using less, but the world is using more. In the 70's and 80's we were sucking it down like water. But then again "Made in the USA" meant something and now it means nothing.... In the face of this, I really think we have definitely made drastic improvements relative to the rest of the planet. Hydrogen fuel cells, solar, wind... it is the only answer - and it MUST occur in our time. The only reason it won't is because it has become a multi-billion dollar cottage to discourage it's development.

Call me a pessimist but I think that those forms of energy are but a flea on the giant dog's ass of energy consumption.

Wind energy is used to produce electricity. Oil produces less than 2.5% of our electricity. The vast majority of electricity produced in the US is from coal fired plants, nuclear power plants and natural gas.

Solar Energy is cost prohibitive as we have seen.

Hydrogen fuels cells are promising but a long ways away from being a factor.

The fact is that we aren't going to be reducing in any significant manner the use of automobiles which is where the oil turned gas is going.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-based_solar_power

John Mankins.

The whores in Washington won't fund it. I wonder why.