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Old 05-23-2010, 08:37 PM
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Old 05-23-2010, 08:54 PM
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Crist did his best to cool the heat. I guess he doesn't believe the state(NJ) will A. get another deal done with AC and B. Is willing to invest somemore money into something that was ultra successful even if it wasnt 100% self funding. I think he is dead wrong. NYRA has zero chance of having VLT's on line before 1/1/11 hence they will need 40 plus mil to get thru '10 and '11. The handle at SPA is going to be down a min of 15% and the NYC OTB situation will be festering in courts and Albany forever.. It's a grim immediate future for NYRA and that sux. BUT when you work for state and the state sux you suck
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Old 05-24-2010, 12:00 AM
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I dont see how you could be a serious player and NOT be playing this meet. What would be the reason not to play?
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Old 05-24-2010, 08:21 AM
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I dont see how you could be a serious player and NOT be playing this meet. What would be the reason not to play?
There isn't any reason not to play, but there is reason to observe and tread lightly... With a rather bizarre mix of outfits melding into the long-established Oceanport crowd, until there is some established form and trends there will be some completely chaotic results that will be undecipherable based on PP's.
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Old 05-24-2010, 08:55 AM
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There isn't any reason not to play, but there is reason to observe and tread lightly... With a rather bizarre mix of outfits melding into the long-established Oceanport crowd, until there is some established form and trends there will be some completely chaotic results that will be undecipherable based on PP's.
People should be playing names. Who wouldn't be forced to bet a horse whose dam was Hitched to a Star with Dick Vitale as a part owner? That had to be one of the stronger angles on DP the Facilitator in the nightcap yesterday.

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Old 05-24-2010, 09:33 AM
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People should be playing names. Who wouldn't be forced to bet a horse whose dam was Hitched to a Star with Dick Vitale as a part owner? That had to be one of the stronger angles on DP the Facilitator in the nightcap yesterday.

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Lot's of regulars simply play whatever Bravo is riding. They must be estatic with the odds they are getting on some of these horses.
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Old 05-24-2010, 03:42 PM
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There isn't any reason not to play, but there is reason to observe and tread lightly... With a rather bizarre mix of outfits melding into the long-established Oceanport crowd, until there is some established form and trends there will be some completely chaotic results that will be undecipherable based on PP's.
Isn't this exactly why you would WANT to play? The increased probability of a big payoff?

There's nothing more boring to me than the same retreads running against each other over and over again, as well as the most difficult to beat.
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Old 05-24-2010, 03:50 PM
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Isn't this exactly why you would WANT to play? The increased probability of a big payoff?

There's nothing more boring to me than the same retreads running against each other over and over again, as well as the most difficult to beat.
It's probably a little of both....though I tend to side with you. I like the increased possibility of chaos. It probably lends itself better to the Monmouth situation where the amount of work necessary to really handicap the card is so burdensome that a more scattered approach probably increases your chances of getting lucky per se.

The shorter priced horses are probably a little less likely to win and the tails are a little fatter.
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Old 05-25-2010, 06:43 AM
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Isn't this exactly why you would WANT to play? The increased probability of a big payoff?

There's nothing more boring to me than the same retreads running against each other over and over again, as well as the most difficult to beat.
I think what you want is enough information or insight to determine if there is a good overlay, but as Steve indicates, maybe you won't have enough PP information to have a clear opinion.

It's more like "There's no way in Hell that this horse should be 10-1." But as far as thinking he's the most likely winner -- might not have that insight.
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