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Old 05-22-2010, 08:32 PM
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The highway Authority? Isnt the highway Authority a function of the state? Doesnt the state "own" the highways? What's next the dept of taxation? Those arent businesses.

The law isnt nor will it be changed. You know that. Handout? LOL. Your grasp of the situation seems on par with the Daily News editorial boards. That is not a compliment.

NYRA is simply playing by the rules of engagement of politics in NYS. Really what choice have they been given?
The state owns NYRA make no mistake about it. NYRA is as independant as my 6 year old son. They rake as told, they expand or contract as told, basically they are an oversight group. The funny part is you all think I am ANTI NYRA ? Why would I be? The new group is wonderful but to think the guys running the park system are less entitled to the states money is comical at best?
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Old 05-22-2010, 08:37 PM
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The state owns NYRA make no mistake about it. NYRA is as independant as my 6 year old son. They rake as told, they expand or contract as told, basically they are an oversight group. The funny part is you all think I am ANTI NYRA ? Why would I be? The new group is wonderful but to think the guys running the park system are less entitled to the states money is comical at best?
Please Freddy, NYRA neither has the option as to whether to contract with OTB nor the right to negotiate the rate at which to sell their product to them. Don't you think that makes them different than any other business and that the State controls this alone obligates the State to put up the $17 million NYCOTB owns them?
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Old 05-22-2010, 08:42 PM
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Please Freddy, NYRA neither has the option as to whether to contract with OTB nor the right to negotiate the rate at which to sell their product to them. Don't you think that makes them different than any other business and that the State controls this alone obligates the State to put up the $17 million NYCOTB owns them?
I think it makes them a state run oversight assc. exactlt what they were prescribed to do..Toll collectors nothing more nothing less. Sorry it isnt a business and its failure or success is based soley on NY
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Old 05-22-2010, 08:53 PM
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The state owns NYRA make no mistake about it. NYRA is as independant as my 6 year old son. They rake as told, they expand or contract as told, basically they are an oversight group. The funny part is you all think I am ANTI NYRA ? Why would I be? The new group is wonderful but to think the guys running the park system are less entitled to the states money is comical at best?
Why do i bother...
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Old 05-22-2010, 09:04 PM
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Why do i bother...
You guys are so close to the trees you dont see the forest. Byk makes me laugh on the air with his narrow opinion.. Trickle down economicas is my favorite lol like offering the same breaks to GM doesnt have the same if not better trickle done result?

Steve, Carolina would have been a huge earn today the fn food stands were packed..Ship in a kiosk ASAP lol
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Old 05-22-2010, 09:07 PM
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You guys are so close to the trees you dont see the forest. Byk makes me laugh on the air with his narrow opinion.. Trickle down economicas is my favorite lol like offering the same breaks to GM doesnt have the same if not better trickle done result?

Steve, Carolina would have been a huge earn today the fn food stands were packed..Ship in a kiosk ASAP lol
Freddy you compare NYRA to toll collectors. Do i need to say more?
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Old 05-22-2010, 09:15 PM
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Freddy you compare NYRA to toll collectors. Do i need to say more?
Yep that condition book must be a real puzzle..They are fn toll collectors.. What does NYRA do other then facilitate the rake? Please its a non profit which is in business to make sure the rake is as big as it can be nothing more and nothing less and I hope they succeed
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Old 05-22-2010, 09:22 PM
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Yep that condition book must be a real puzzle..They are fn toll collectors.. What does NYRA do other then facilitate the rake? Please its a non profit which is in business to make sure the rake is as big as it can be nothing more and nothing less and I hope they succeed
They are a non-profit because that is the only way that the state can maintain control over the business. They knew if they disbanded NYRA and brought in a for profit company they would have to cut the tentacles wraped around the business in the form of NYCOTB and the choice of the VLT partner. Once the debacle of bidding on the franchise had run its course it was the only way for the state to save face.
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Old 05-22-2010, 09:22 PM
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NYRA has consistently pushed for lower takeout

They pushed and implemented stricter drug testing

They have player friendly scratch rules on pick 3

Not saints, no one running racing is, but better then the other folks running other tracks
Yep and they are still toll collectors
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Old 05-22-2010, 09:24 PM
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NYRA has consistently pushed for lower takeout

They pushed and implemented stricter drug testing

They have player friendly scratch rules on pick 3

Not saints, no one running racing is, but better then the other folks running other tracks
NYRA does not test for drugs
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Old 05-22-2010, 09:26 PM
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NYRA does not test for drugs
Obviously otherwise super horseman TAP would not be as successful
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Old 05-22-2010, 09:34 PM
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The state of NY conducts the testing at SUNY Morrisville
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