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Old 10-02-2006, 02:56 PM
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Yup, Joel, we all have our rooting interests. Myself, I root for my friends. I root for the Baltimore Orioles and I root for Nick Zito's horses. But, I don't constantly trump up their chances while ignoring reality. I am sure I am in some ways blinded but I try to at least keep my personal rooting interests in check when posting...or at least I am up front about it.

I like that you love Godolphin, it gives me constant opportunities to tease you, and you have to admit you open yourself up for it. My actual question is what is the genesis of this affection...if you don't mind.
Again, I like their HORSES...if Hitler owned Discreet Cat and Bernardini I would be a fan of the horses...I can't help who owns them..

I have never met or done business with ANYBODY affiliated with that group, so it isn't for any other reason other than they have the right horses that make me appreciate their operation as a fan of horse racing...period...

Hell, I know plenty of semi-big owners out there who I would much rather root for, but they don't have the right horses...it is one thing to root for people you want to see do well and it is another thing ton appreciate the beauty of greatness (Bernardini and Discreet Cat and Henny Hughes, etc.) when you see it - regardless of who owns it....the freakin' horses cannot control who owns them for God's sake
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Old 10-02-2006, 02:58 PM
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Again, I like their HORSES...if Hitler owned Discreet Cat and Bernardini I would be a fan of the horses...I can't help who owns them..

I have never met or done business with ANYBODY affiliated with that group, so it isn't for any other reason other than they have the right horses that make me appreciate their operation as a fan of horse racing...period...

Hell, I know plenty of semi-big owners out there who I would much rather root for, but they don't have the right horses...it is one thing to root for people you want to see do well and it is another thing ton appreciate the beauty of greatness (Bernardini and Discreet Cat and Henny Hughes, etc.) when you see it - regardless of who owns it....the freakin' horses cannot control who owns them for God's sake

I wouldn't root for horses that Hitler owned no matter how good they were....but that's just me. Maybe I only feel that way because it's Yom Kippur....but I doubt it.

By the way, not the analogy I would have made when defending my love of Godolphin.
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Old 10-02-2006, 03:12 PM
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I wouldn't root for horses that Hitler owned no matter how good they were....but that's just me. Maybe I only feel that way because it's Yom Kippur....but I doubt it.

By the way, not the analogy I would have made when defending my love of Godolphin.
The point is that its all about the HORSE...thats what this game should be about to me....If you are a baseball fan you should apprecaite teh talent and abilities of Alex Rodriguez if YOU ARE A TRUE FAN THAT LOVES TO SEE GREATNESS....not because he plays for the Yankees. Hell, I'm supposed to hate A-Rod by your theory if you say that you would'nt apprecaite any horses Hitler owned - becasue I really dislike the yankees...But i like A-Rod becuase I apprecita good talent...that i the draw and dynamic for most fans...seeing something spectacular happen that average people cannot do, right...

I appreciate horses that are extra-ordinary - such as Bernardini and Discreet Cat...I could care less who owns them......What I cannot appreciate is an owner who I'm personal friends with that has a horse that wins the Louisiana Champions Day Lassie because - while I'm happy for that person - i know that the horse really is just another horse...a dime a dozen..

Bernardinis and Discreet Cats just don't come around enough for me to dislike them and not appreciate them for the petty reason of who owns them....
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Old 10-02-2006, 08:58 PM
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I wouldn't root for horses that Hitler owned no matter how good they were....but that's just me. Maybe I only feel that way because it's Yom Kippur....but I doubt it.

By the way, not the analogy I would have made when defending my love of Godolphin.
Ah, so we see clearer now.

Maybe you'll feel differently the day after Yom Kippur ... but I doubt it.

So some Arabs have some nice horses. What's wrong with that? So they spend a lot of money? What's wrong with that?

Lots of horse racing industry people will hate the Arab horse owners for one simple reason.

Now that they are having success with their North American runners, we're seeing the sentiment tossed their way change from ridicule to to something even less attractive.

Personally, I wish them good luck. They have some nice ones, they got a triple crown race win and I look for their horses to do well the rest of the year.

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Old 10-02-2006, 09:35 PM
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Ah, so we see clearer now.

Maybe you'll feel differently the day after Yom Kippur ... but I doubt it.

So some Arabs have some nice horses. What's wrong with that? So they spend a lot of money? What's wrong with that?

Lots of horse racing industry people will hate the Arab horse owners for one simple reason.

Now that they are having success with their North American runners, we're seeing the sentiment tossed their way change from ridicule to to something even less attractive.

Personally, I wish them good luck. They have some nice ones, they got a triple crown race win and I look for their horses to do well the rest of the year.

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Not sure what you're getting at.

I don't dislike Godolphin because they're Arabs ( I dislike Hitler because he was responsible for the mass murder of millions of Jews among other atrocities but that has nothing to do with Godolphin ). I dislike them because I believe they have had a detrimental affect on major racing in America.

They have every right to have operated as they have but I simply don't see them as a friend of American racing. Perhaps that will change, and it does seem we are seeing a few more of their horses, but they have done a lot of damage over the last twenty years.
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Old 10-02-2006, 03:00 PM
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Again, I like their HORSES...if Hitler owned Discreet Cat and Bernardini I would be a fan of the horses...I can't help who owns them..

I have never met or done business with ANYBODY affiliated with that group, so it isn't for any other reason other than they have the right horses that make me appreciate their operation as a fan of horse racing...period...

Hell, I know plenty of semi-big owners out there who I would much rather root for, but they don't have the right horses...it is one thing to root for people you want to see do well and it is another thing ton appreciate the beauty of greatness (Bernardini and Discreet Cat and Henny Hughes, etc.) when you see it - regardless of who owns it....the freakin' horses cannot control who owns them for God's sake
So if Hitler would have owned Bernardini and DC you would have titled the travers thread...

Hitler will show his strength this weekend at the Spa

ROTFLMMFAO!
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Old 10-02-2006, 03:02 PM
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Where is the Hitler remarks coming from...

It's not like Joel was actually comparing the sheiks to Hitler

He was just using Hitler as an e x a m p l e.
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Old 10-02-2006, 03:04 PM
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Where is the Hitler remarks coming from...

It's not like Joel was actually comparing the sheiks to Hitler

He was just using Hitler as an e x a m p l e.
You seem upset. Are you and Joel having an online relationship?
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Old 10-02-2006, 03:05 PM
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You seem upset. Are you and Joel having an online relationship?
No, I'm not upset. An internet message board rarely makes me upset. Its just that I know how he feels because people do the exact same thing to me.

No, other than friends. I would like to meet him one day though.

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Old 10-02-2006, 03:08 PM
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No, its just that I know how he feels because people do the exact same thing to me.
So is he feeling hurt? If so i'll stop and leave him alone. I've worked with special needs children before and I know the trauma they go through with being picked on by their peers.
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Old 10-02-2006, 03:10 PM
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So is he feeling hurt? If so i'll stop and leave him alone. I've worked with special needs children before and I know the trauma they go through with being picked on by their peers.
Do you put pillows in their pants to make them feel better? LMFAO
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Old 10-02-2006, 03:13 PM
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So is he feeling hurt? If so i'll stop and leave him alone. I've worked with special needs children before and I know the trauma they go through with being picked on by their peers.
I'm sure he probably doesn't really care, although I'm not really qualified to answer that question. I know that I get frustrated with it sometimes, and I really appreciate his insight, just as I appreciate a lot of other's insight on this board.

And stop. This was a nice thread... I was learning a lot. Now, I'm reduced to guessing what someone else is feeling.....

The shame...LOL

I am actually taking an Abnormal Psychology course right now. LOL.

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Old 10-02-2006, 03:13 PM
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Where is the Hitler remarks coming from...

It's not like Joel was actually comparing the sheiks to Hitler

He was just using Hitler as an e x a m p l e.
Of course I was....comparing Hitler to the Shieks is crazy....
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