Lawyer Ron Goes to Pletcher..

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Yeah but we need people like them to make good business decisions. Buying a Langfuhr for $6 million is a bigtime gamble. Sure the horse had a shot at the derby but the risk vs. reward wasn't balanced in their favor.

What put up the red flag for me is how one of the Hines' family members loved the horse and said they wouldn't consider selling until after the triple crown races. I was told this by them before the Arkansas Derby. And then all of a sudden the horse is for sale? Hmm.



I've got a relative who is a breeder and his livelihood depends on people overpaying for horse flesh. I believe one of his babies was purchased and put under the care of Pletcher. Could be wrong though.

It's amazing the ups and downs he goes through. One day he makes $200k and the next day he loses a mare because she kicked her stall.



Hey I admit what I said about them was wrong. But part of the blame of the state of racing is the way these *******s who inherited their wealth/farm have squandered everything their kin had worked for. They end up selling the farm to a sheikh and then we have to endure those ungrateful pricks winning all of the big races and owning all of the top stallions and mares.

Makes me sick.

I root for people like the Haisfields. We need 1000 more of them.

I'm very willing to bet that the relative who said they would never sell had a real change of heart when the offer was put in front of them!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by oracle80

I'm very willing to bet that the relative who said they would never sell had a real change of heart when the offer was put in front of them!!!!!!!!

Mr. Hines was a multi-millionaire. I mean absolutely loaded. Owned one of the largest tool and die operations in Kentucky.

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Mr. Hines was a multi-millionaire. I mean absolutely loaded. Owned one of the largest tool and die operations in Kentucky.

And obviously that business acumen was well heeded and inherited by his family.
When someone tosses that many zeroes in front of you for a horse whos been beating Steppenwolfer and Private Vow, you take it as fast as you can click the ballpoint pen.

Originally Posted by oracle80

And obviously that business acumen was well heeded and inherited by his family.
When someone tosses that many zeroes in front of you for a horse whos been beating Steppenwolfer and Private Vow, you take it as fast as you can click the ballpoint pen.

Oh yeah and laugh all the way to the bank.

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Oh yeah and laugh all the way to the bank.

Right, I agree ok? So everyone made a score here, the agent who brokered it, the family who sold, and I won't say it as a fact, but I would be willing to bet that Holthus made a SCORE!! And I mean, zeroes Pillow Pants. More than he made in 10%, and more than if he won a lotta cash the next year with him.

So the guy moved him? So what? There are no injured parties here, except the guy who bought him.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Right, I agree ok? So everyone made a score here, the agent who brokered it, the family who sold, and I won't say it as a fact, but I would be willing to bet that Holthus made a SCORE!! And I mean, zeroes Pillow Pants. More than he made in 10%, and more than if he won a lotta cash the next year with him.

So the guy moved him? So what? There are no injured parties here, except the guy who bought him.

This caliber of a horse they could've at least let Holthus spend more than 10 minutes with him before he was vanned off. It's not like we're talking about a 40k claimer.

Wouldn't you want some more time if the best horse you've ever trained was about to leave?

That's really my only gripe.

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

This caliber of a horse they could've at least let Holthus spend more than 10 minutes with him before he was vanned off. It's not like we're talking about a 40k claimer.

Wouldn't you want some more time if the best horse you've ever trained was about to leave?

That's really my only gripe.

If I had a choice between petting my very favorite horse for more than 10 minutes, or a half mill, I'd take the half mill. I think most people would who arent independently wealthy.

[Linny]

They probably received an insurance bill and decided a partner was a good idea. remember, the odds of a son of Langfuhr hitting big paydirt on the TC campaign were slim. They sold at the maximum of his "value curve."