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Old 05-17-2010, 03:08 PM
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I'm lost. Help me on this one.
It's a saying, "if you weren't there for the wedding, don't be there for the funeral" i.e. if you didn't get a piece of the horse at 25-1 when he lit up the board, don't bet him at 3-1 next time out when you're getting far less value.
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Old 05-18-2010, 10:25 AM
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It's a saying, "if you weren't there for the wedding, don't be there for the funeral" i.e. if you didn't get a piece of the horse at 25-1 when he lit up the board, don't bet him at 3-1 next time out when you're getting far less value.
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Old 05-18-2010, 11:32 AM
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Ingriguing ?


Is it me?
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Old 05-18-2010, 12:03 PM
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I think its a great field to bet on

2 of the 3 favorites will be Ice Box and Stately Victor,both have issues

Unless a rabbit is sent out there doesnt look like alot of speed for Ice Box(Should hit the board due to fact he can get distance and some can't) and Stately Victor I am still not convinced can run on fast dirt.

There should be 13 or 14 horses,would love to see the filly go to take some money but don't look like it

New Madrid is a go-Ice just said he needs a race and the turf one is the next out there
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Old 05-18-2010, 12:12 PM
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Velazquez to ride Fly Down in Belmont
By David Grening

ELMONT, N.Y. - No more calls, please, we have a winner.

John Velazquez has been tabbed by trainer Nick Zito to ride Fly Down in the $1 million Belmont Stakes on June 5, the Hall of Fame trainer told Daily Racing Form on Tuesday morning. Coming off a decisive six-length victory in the Grade 2 Dwyer Stakes at Belmont on May 8, Fly Down figures to be among the top three betting choices in the Belmont along with stablemate Ice Box, the Kentucky Derby runner-up; and First Dude, the Preakness runner-up.

"Belmont Park, John Velazquez, Nick Zito, we've had good luck together," Zito, who trains Fly Down for owner Richard Pell, said from Saratoga. "Plus, I've known Johnny since he was 18. I had a lot of good jockeys wanting to ride this horse, but I went with the New York jockey."

Velazquez rode Fly Down to a third-place finish in his debut last October at Belmont.
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Old 05-18-2010, 12:23 PM
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Quite a pickup for Johnny. Lezcano picked the wrong horse IMO.
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Old 05-18-2010, 08:46 PM
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Quite a pickup for Johnny. Lezcano picked the wrong horse IMO.
Ice Box got the wrong jock.
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Old 05-18-2010, 12:52 PM
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"Belmont Park, John Velazquez, Nick Zito, we've had good luck together," Zito, who trains Fly Down for owner Richard Pell, said from Saratoga. "Plus, I've known Johnny since he was 18. I had a lot of good jockeys wanting to ride this horse, but I went with the New York jockey."
In other words, Cordero wasn't available.
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Old 05-18-2010, 12:36 PM
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I think its a great field to bet on

2 of the 3 favorites will be Ice Box and Stately Victor,both have issues

Unless a rabbit is sent out there doesnt look like alot of speed for Ice Box(Should hit the board due to fact he can get distance and some can't) and Stately Victor I am still not convinced can run on fast dirt.

There should be 13 or 14 horses,would love to see the filly go to take some money but don't look like it

New Madrid is a go-Ice just said he needs a race and the turf one is the next out there
Can't see Stately Victor being a top 3 choice. Fly Down and First Dude will be lower than him.
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Old 05-18-2010, 03:31 PM
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Can't see Stately Victor being a top 3 choice. Fly Down and First Dude will be lower than him.
I agree. I would think Stately Victor will be the 4th or even 5th choice. Fly Down, Ice Box, and First Dude will all be lower odds than SV. Make Music For Me ran 4th in the Derby. He might even be lower odds than SV.
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Old 05-18-2010, 04:02 PM
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I agree. I would think Stately Victor will be the 4th or even 5th choice. Fly Down, Ice Box, and First Dude will all be lower odds than SV. Make Music For Me ran 4th in the Derby. He might even be lower odds than SV.
Ya u guys are right I keep thinking Game on Dude not First Dude

Stately Victor will be 4th choice but not sure he likes the fast dirt no matter what the odds are
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Old 05-20-2010, 10:20 AM
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I agree. I would think Stately Victor will be the 4th or even 5th choice. Fly Down, Ice Box, and First Dude will all be lower odds than SV. Make Music For Me ran 4th in the Derby. He might even be lower odds than SV.
Even Uptown CharlyBrown will take money because...well, he always takes money. First time McLaughlin will drop his price even lower. Either way, Zitos horses will be the two deserving favorites.
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