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Old 09-30-2006, 09:01 PM
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The sure as heck don't want Invasor actually beating Bernardini either. Why risk it? If they ran and Invasor won, then Bernardini's HOTY would be out the window. That's why you'll never see DC run against Bernardini either -- DC would leave him in the dust and they know that.

As good as they are as horsemen, they are even better at business. A JCGC win, followed by a BC win, and HOTY, and Bernardini's stud fee would be astronomical.

It would be stupid to let one of their other horses ruin all that. Looks like they can almost manipulate the market at this point doesn't it?

They didn't get all that money by being nice guys.
I'm glad you know what the Sheikh's think about DC and Bernardini...... It's interesting how it works - that the Sheikh believes DC would slaughter Bernardini and not the other way around? Funny, I've never heard him say such a thing. It's just as possible that they think Bernardini would stomp over DC; in any case, regardless of what the Sheikh thinks of his colts' abilities, he'd want to avoid having them run against each other for the simple reason that each could clean up wherever they went. Why aim for the same prizes?

I don't believe Invasor is ducking Bernardini, but if you read the quotes in the DRF article, it's pretty clear that Tom was very confident in his colt facing Invasor (saying that the older horse would have given his own colt a tough battle, implying that Bernardini would win). Horses are avoiding Bernardini (read the DRF article from a couple of days ago) and Kieran is giving that colt the utmost respect - he knew how good he was before the Preakness. Therefore, it seems to me that if anyone would resort to ducking, it would be Invasor's connections.
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Old 09-30-2006, 11:35 PM
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Take that crap to the Esoteric section buddy.
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Old 10-01-2006, 06:00 AM
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well...if anyone thinks invasor is indeed NOT running a fever, and is healthy as a --well, you know, and that they aren't running invasor so as to keep bernardini from losing--than i guess you could connect all that together and say that those who feel bernardini is the surest thing this year would be wrong. right?

actually, i think invasor is running a temp, as stated, and may or may not run, as stated. it's horse racing, it's not freaking national security.
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Old 10-01-2006, 09:01 AM
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Why would Mcglaughlin say he was running all this time and suddenly come up with what some people think is a phony excuse? If he was yellow why wouldnt he have just said 3 weeks ago no way am I going against Bernardini?
Even if he was yellow he could still pick up a nice 2nd place check in a grade 1. I think its legit.
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Old 10-01-2006, 10:00 AM
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Why keep Invasor away from Bernardini? Stud fees, duh. Bernardini kicks his @ss and Invasor's fee is diminished viz. Bernardini. Retire Invasor now and he's something like 8 for 9 lifetime with 3 Grade 1's in 3 tries. Sounds better than 8 for 11 lifetime with 3 Grade 1's in 5 tries.
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Old 10-01-2006, 10:04 AM
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Why would Mcglaughlin say he was running all this time and suddenly come up with what some people think is a phony excuse? If he was yellow why wouldnt he have just said 3 weeks ago no way am I going against Bernardini?
Even if he was yellow he could still pick up a nice 2nd place check in a grade 1. I think its legit.
A second place check to these people would be about as important as me finding a penny on the sidewalk. If u have read the comments from the trainer all summer, he's let it clearly be known that he was not looking forward to facing Bernardini. This fear is far from sudden.
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Man I find this pretty disappointing.
Musta been one hell of a fever, because missing two days training with a fit horse 9-10 days before a race isn't usually a very big deal. Call me skeptical.
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they want him at his best, if he's not i wouldn't run him either. timing is everything.
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well...if anyone thinks invasor is indeed NOT running a fever, and is healthy as a --well, you know, and that they aren't running invasor so as to keep bernardini from losing--than i guess you could connect all that together and say that those who feel bernardini is the surest thing this year would be wrong. right?

actually, i think invasor is running a temp, as stated, and may or may not run, as stated. it's horse racing, it's not freaking national security.
Your point is well taken. I think, however, that they are keeping Invasor in the barn to keep HIM from losing, not Bernardini.
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