Decent Group, Return of Nicanor- Thursday Keeneland

[randallscott35]

Nicanor money burning 6/5.....Man I wish Lentenor was going in the Derby.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Nicanor money burning 6/5.....Man I wish Lentenor was going in the Derby.

He was an underlay for sure but the winner was tough to have.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

He was an underlay for sure but the winner was tough to have.

Didn't bet the race. Agree about the winner but the Barbaro clan just gets bet no matter what.

[Merlinsky]

So he was 5th but 2 lengths behind the winner? Gotta love turf races and how you can be several positions back within just a length. Wasn't one of his attempts to break his maiden a loss to Custom for Carlos? If memory serves, Nic likes to be up front. I realize the family can route all day, but is a turf sprint a bad tune up? Does he just not have enough kick to do that? I guess they want to get him good and tired going long, but there was that thing we talked about before with bringing a horse back in a sprint and how it's less common but viable.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

So he was 5th but 2 lengths behind the winner? Gotta love turf races and how you can be several positions back within just a length. Wasn't one of his attempts to break his maiden a loss to Custom for Carlos? If memory serves, Nic likes to be up front. I realize the family can route all day, but is a turf sprint a bad tune up? Does he just not have enough kick to do that? I guess they want to get him good and tired going long, but there was that thing we talked about before with bringing a horse back in a sprint and how it's less common but viable.

Maybe he needed the race. Or he's just not that good. He was right up on the pace and the other horse stayed on just fine. Nicanor's a nice enough horse but I don't think he's stakes quality. I doubt they would've taken him to Delaware if they thought he was.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Maybe he needed the race. Or he's just not that good. He was right up on the pace and the other horse stayed on just fine. Nicanor's a nice enough horse but I don't think he's stakes quality. I doubt they would've taken him to Delaware if they thought he was.

When does Matz every have a horse dead fit off the layoff. I always play against his horses off the layoff.

But maybe this is like speed holding on the lawn at Keeneland. Another thing I believe that isn't true

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Scav

When does Matz every have a horse dead fit off the layoff. I always play against his horses off the layoff.

But maybe this is like speed holding on the lawn at Keeneland. Another thing I believe that isn't true

Every move they've made with Nicanor says they don't think he's much. And if that's the case, he hasn't proven them wrong yet.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Every move they've made with Nicanor says they don't think he's much. And if that's the case, he hasn't proven them wrong yet.

Except that they pointed him to the Virginia Derby before he got hurt. What are they supposed to do? Put him in a graded stakes route off a layoff? Why not at Delaware? I assume Matz still takes a string there. If only for convenience just run him in his backyard where he broke his maiden. Might as well, and it worked well enough the first time.