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Old 09-28-2006, 12:25 PM
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Old 09-28-2006, 12:26 PM
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If there is a rabbit in the JCGC might affect Bernardini more than Invasor I think
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Old 09-28-2006, 12:28 PM
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If there is a rabbit in the JCGC might affect Bernardini more than Invasor I think
Yep, I agree. But only if SC runs like a rabbit this time.
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Old 09-28-2006, 12:31 PM
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I guess considering the Coolmore-Godolphin situation it is hardly surprising Coolmore is thinking of a rabbit in this race.

Perhaps after last year's Woodward debacle the NY stewards might want to read the European rules regarding rabbits.
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Old 09-28-2006, 12:34 PM
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I guess considering the Coolmore-Godolphin situation it is hardly surprising Coolmore is thinking of a rabbit in this race.

Perhaps after last year's Woodward debacle the NY stewards might want to read the European rules regarding rabbits.
Believe the debacle with the rabbit was in last year's JCGC, no? Flower Alley pressed his own rabbit pretty much throughout.
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Old 09-28-2006, 12:36 PM
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No it was the disgraceful exhibition put on by Dutrow in the Woodward, using two rabbits who were separate betting interests from Saint Liam, and intentially trying to impede Commentator. But, I guess some people will do anything to win.

On the other hand, he didn't break any rules...it's just that the rules themselves are broken.
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Old 09-28-2006, 12:52 PM
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No it was the disgraceful exhibition put on by Dutrow in the Woodward, using two rabbits who were separate betting interests from Saint Liam, and intentially trying to impede Commentator. But, I guess some people will do anything to win.

On the other hand, he didn't break any rules...it's just that the rules themselves are broken.
I agree, I don't fault Dutrow one bit for what he did in that race, pretty smart if you ask me. I would do the same damn thing...
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Old 09-28-2006, 01:03 PM
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I guess I'm in the camp that thinks its smart to run a rabbit in the JCGC. Coolmore has a horse with a closing kick, and they are willing to pay the nomination and starting fees to insure one.
Where exactly is the rule that is written that says need the lead/speed types should never face any adversity in their races?
Bull****. The reason many of them reel off winning streaks is that noone wants to bang heads with them early, because they are all afraid they will stop and get no purse money. They all just suck along and try to get place and show money and the speed horse rolls.
Wanna know what a DISGRACE IS???? A disgrace was the Dubai Escapade race up here where several other horses like Stormy Kiss had early speed and all of em grabbed like sumo wrestlers so as to avoid a duel, and just sucked along while Dubai bounded free and clear in moderate fractions that others in the field had regularly set or attended.
BULL**** to the notion that a rabbit is not fair to anyone. Give me a break please. If Dr fager could suffer the "indignity" of a rabbit, than anyone else who ever sets foot on a track can.
I love the whole notion that because either Dutrow or Coolmore does it then it is wrong, but if you do it to Dr Fager its ok.
I for one, am tired of witnessing grade one races where jockeys are given orders to grab and not contest the favorite so as not to "burn up" the mount and allow the favorite to just roll away unmolested.
Holy Bull had a rabbit thrown at him in the Travers and proved his greatness by winning anyway.
Smarty Jones got absolutely tortured by Bailey and Solis in the Belmont.
At what point did Commentator and Bernadini become exempt from what Holy Bull, Dr. fager, and Smarty Jones were forced to endure.
If Bernadini is indeed a superhorse, then some adversity should not be a problem.
You'll never see me crying because a 2-5 shot never gets contested during a race and is allowed to walk to the half mile pole.
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Old 09-28-2006, 01:11 PM
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[quote=tycharles01]If there is a rabbit in the JCGC might affect Bernardini more than Invasor I think[/QUOTE

Bernardini is not a speed horse by choice, so Spanish Chestnut's presence will not hurt him. It may help him - he's probably better with a target.
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Old 09-28-2006, 01:13 PM
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If there is a rabbit in the JCGC might affect Bernardini more than Invasor I think[/QUOTE

Bernardini is not a speed horse by choice, so Spanish Chestnut's presence will not hurt him. It may help him - he's probably better with a target.
LOL... we shall see, Betsy. I will officially shut my mouth about Bernardini if he wins the JCGC. I will jump on the bandwagon. Until then... nah.
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