Will it pass?

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by joeydb

I'm only saying that because it is also the Constitution that determines how the powers are divided among the branches and what limits are on those powers.

It is possible for the legislature to adopt rules or parliamentary procedure that would in itself be unconstitutional. The Supreme Court would have to be the one to rein that in because the legislative branch will not do that for itself.

Usually it's the Supreme Court through judicial review. The President ideally would not sign a bill into law when he thinks the procedure to get it to his desk was unconstitutional. That's not going to happen here.

The branches by design do keep an eye on each other with regard to the constitutionality of their actions.

this is the incorrect assumption that leads to the wrong conclusion.

rules the legislative branch adopts to govern itself aren't subject to review by any other branch of government. a single senator recently stopped the senate in it's tracks for a week. no one that i'm aware of questioned the constitutionality of senate rules that allow this.

and for a good reason.

the constitutional crisis would occur when the judiciary inserted itself into the process of making laws instead of simply reviewing the law itself.

[AeWingnut]

I believe Social Security is unConstitutional

and this bs reform ain't even close

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

I believe Social Security is unConstitutional

and this bs reform ain't even close

meh.

i'll start to worry after you receive your judicial appointment.

[SOREHOOF]

They may be able to argue that it's "passage" was unconstitutional. I took out a personal health care policy today. It's called AR-15. Pelosi said something about kicking down doors, and I thought that was offensive. I took it as a threat. Not only to me but to anyone who understands what freedom is, or that it is our birthright, and we are compelled to protect it, at all times at any cost it must be defended.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

They may be able to argue that it's "passage" was unconstitutional. I took out a personal health care policy today. It's called AR-15. Pelosi said something about kicking down doors, and I thought that was offensive. I took it as a threat. Not only to me but to anyone who understands what freedom is, or that it is our birthright, and we are compelled to protect it, at all times at any cost it must be defended.

that's not the least bit hysterical.

you might want to back away from the angry right wing blogs for a day or two if this gets passed. i'd hate to see you fly a plane into a building.

[Nascar1966]

I wish they would vote soon im getting tired of seeing Pelosi on TV. If this bill does pass I guess you can say we no longer live in a Democratic society. Being forced to do something they a person doesnt want to do doesn't sound like freedom to me. If this bill does pass I would hate to be a Democrat up for election. Im just glad I have way better medical insurance for me and my family than this worthless bogus insurance is going to be.

[Riot]

It appears that what is actually in the Senate bill (hardly anything) or the proposed reconciliation amendments (I posted that two or three times) remains a mystery to some.

It seems what some of you "know" about healthcare reform are just some scary ultra-right rumors from last summer.

None of which is in there

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

I wish they would vote soon im getting tired of seeing Pelosi on TV. If this bill does pass I guess you can say we no longer live in a Democratic society. Being forced to do something they a person doesnt want to do doesn't sound like freedom to me. If this bill does pass I would hate to be a Democrat up for election. Im just glad I have way better medical insurance for me and my family than this worthless bogus insurance is going to be.

I don't want my neighbor owning a gun, but it looks like I won't have a choice there. How come all the bullsh*t the Republicans passed that I thought was an infridgement on my rights is part of a Democratic Society, but something you don't like is not? Typical double standard right wing crap

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

that's not the least bit hysterical.

you might want to back away from the angry right wing blogs for a day or two if this gets passed. i'd hate to see you fly a plane into a building.

Are you serious?

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Are you serious?

"I took out a personal health care policy today. It's called AR-15. Pelosi said something about kicking down doors, and I thought that was offensive. I took it as a threat. Not only to me but to anyone who understands what freedom is, or that it is our birthright, and we are compelled to protect it, at all times at any cost it must be defended."

were you?