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Old 03-13-2010, 10:20 PM
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G'town v WV ended up a push right?
Unless you didn't bother fu cking around with the spread and took Georgetown on the money line like me. Fu ck West Virginia, I hope Bob Huggins dies of another heart attack.
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Old 03-13-2010, 10:23 PM
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Unless you didn't bother fu cking around with the spread and took Georgetown on the money line like me. Fu ck West Virginia, I hope Bob Huggins dies of another heart attack.

my condolences Joe....but forgive me for lol
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Old 03-13-2010, 10:28 PM
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my condolences Joe....but forgive me for lol
IDC really. When West Virginia gags as usual in the 2nd round and everyone is looking for explanations, I'll feign shock. There's a reason Huggins never got back to the Final Four after '92. His teams are soft as baby sh it. They manages to outstagger an exhausted 8-seed because JT3 was too stupid to call a timeout and draw up a final play. Way to go.
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Old 03-13-2010, 10:37 PM
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IDC really. When West Virginia gags as usual in the 2nd round and everyone is looking for explanations, I'll feign shock. There's a reason Huggins never got back to the Final Four after '92. His teams are soft as baby sh it. They manages to outstagger an exhausted 8-seed because JT3 was too stupid to call a timeout and draw up a final play. Way to go.
I'm a big east fan .... but not at all a WV fan...but I'm thinking that Gtown has had a hard time puttin wins together all year long
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Unless you didn't bother fu cking around with the spread and took Georgetown on the money line like me. Fu ck West Virginia, I hope Bob Huggins dies of another heart attack.
Calm down Joseph.
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Old 03-13-2010, 10:39 PM
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Calm down Joseph.
That's twice that Butler threw up a prayer and was rewarded. He's not a hero, he's a lucky piece of sh it D-League bricklayer. Ask this dude to make a clutch free throw and he couldn't do it to save his girl's life. He's proven incapable of closing out games. But now he's a hero because two hopeless shots he threw up were pushed in by the redneck coonskin wearing gods. That team is still one giant underachieving lump of sh it and I won't hear otherwise.
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These are teenagers playing hoops people..and they should be paid..jeezus..I hate College basketball
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Old 03-14-2010, 08:09 AM
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These are teenagers playing hoops people..and they should be paid..jeezus..I hate College basketball
Forget my rant...I just dislike college basketball, not hate, but I really think they should be compensated with more than a scholarship..anyone else agree at all?
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Forget my rant...I just dislike college basketball, not hate, but I really think they should be compensated with more than a scholarship..anyone else agree at all?
yes, then it would be a level playingfield. as some are getting paid anyway..
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yes, then it would be a level playingfield. as some are getting paid anyway..
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Forget my rant...I just dislike college basketball, not hate, but I really think they should be compensated with more than a scholarship..anyone else agree at all?
Uhh...some of them are... kinda on the dow low...you know?
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Old 03-14-2010, 04:47 PM
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My final prediction for the field:

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So here we are, college basketball's version of Election Night. the dust has all but settled after 4+ months of college basketball, and we enter the final two hours before the brackets are revealed with most of the field set. But as always, there's a group of teams that will be fighting for the final 2 or 3 bids. This was one of the weaker bubbles in recent memory, so all of these teams will have fatal flaws, and the picture is a little blurrier than I allowed last night. But let's start with what we know. Here are your final consensus at-large locks:

Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Georgetown, Marquette, Louisville, Notre Dame, Villanova, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Maryland, Georgia Tech, Florida State, Clemson, Michigan State, Purdue, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Kansas State, Baylor, Texas, Texas A&M, Missouri, Oklahoma State, UTEP, Gonzaga, Xavier, Richmond, New Mexico, BYU, UNLV

If you're going by what most people are saying, that leaves 5 bids for this contingent: Utah State, California, Minnesota, Illinois, Wake Forest, Virginia Tech, Mississippi State, Florida, Seton Hall, Rhode Island, Mississippi

Well I, for one, refuse to believe that UTEP is a lock and Utah State isn't. Let's compare the two.

• UTEP, 39 RPI, 111 SOS, 26-6 (15-1), 2-1 v RPI TOP 50, 8-4 v RPI TOP 100, 18-2 v RPI 101+, 11-4 R/N, 167 AVG RPI WIN, 73 AVG RPI LOSS
• UTAH STATE, 31 RPI, 100 SOS, 26-7 (14-2), 2-1 v RPI TOP 50, 10-5 v RPI TOP 100, 16-2 v RPI 101+, 10-6 R/N, AVG RPI WIN 168, 80 AVG RPI LOSS

Again, I'd love to hear the difference between those two teams. Conventional wisdom says Conference USA is better than the WAC. Conventional wisdom is dumb. The RPI ranks the WAC (10th) AHEAD of C-USA (11th). So if Utah State's name isn't on a line tonight, I don't expect UTEP's to be either. 4 bids.

Cal is in. I know, the Bears are only 1-6 against the RPI top 50, but there's no way they're getting left out. They've looked very strong since losing at Oregon State on 2/18 and their computer profile is stellar relative to other bubble teams. They'll be wearing road jerseys, but they'll be playing on Thursday or Friday. 3 bids.

Minnesota's getting in. The Gophers are hurt by only going 9-9 in the Big Ten and took a lopsided loss to Ohio State in the Big Ten final, but their run in the conference tourney, plus their absolute obliteration of Purdue on Saturday was enough to convince the committee that they're good enough to win games in the tournament. 2 bids.

Now it gets less clear cut. 2 bids are left for 8 pretty evenly matched teams. These are the teams that'll be sweating it out for the next hour or so. Here's their respective at-large credentials on paper:

• ILLINOIS, 75 RPI, 35 SOS, 19-14 (10-8), 5-9 v RPI TOP 50, 6-10 v RPI TOP 100, 13-4 v RPI 101+, 7-10 R/N, AVG RPI WIN 158, AVG RPI LOSS 56
• WAKE FOREST, 37 RPI, 29 SOS, 19-10 (9-7), 6-5 v RPI TOP 50, 9-10 v RPI TOP 100, 10-0 v RPI 101+, 6-8 R/N, AVG RPI WIN 131, AVG RPI LOSS 60
• VIRGINIA TECH, 60 RPI, 133 SOS, 23-8 (10-6), 3-4 v RPI TOP 50, 8-7 v RPI TOP 100, 15-1 v RPI 101+, 8-7 R/N, AVG RPI WIN AVG RPI WIN 170, AVG RPI LOSS 61
• MISSISSIPPI STATE, 56 RPI, 97 SOS, 23-11 (11-5), 2-5 v RPI TOP 50, 7-7 v RPI TOP 100, 16-4 v RPI 101+, 10-8 R/N, AVG RPI WIN 158, AVG RPI LOSS 73
• FLORIDA, 54 RPI, 33 SOS, 21-12 (9-7), 3-8 v RPI TOP 50, 8-10 v RPI TOP 100, 13-2 v RPI 101+, 8-8 R/N, AVG RPI WIN 155, AVG RPI LOSS 48
• SETON HALL, 61 RPI, 31 SOS, 19-12 (9-9), 4-9 v RPI TOP 50, 6-12 v RPI TOP 100, 13-0 v RPI 101+, 6-8 R/N, AVG RPI WIN 153, AVG RPI LOSS 29
• RHODE ISLAND, 40 RPI, 73 SOS, 23-9 (9-7), 1-5 v RPI TOP 50, 7-7 v RPI TOP 100, 16-2 v RPI 101+, 11-6 R/N, AVG RPI WIN 152, AVG RPI LOSS 61
• MISSISSIPPI, 62 RPI, 69 SOS, 21-10 (9-7), 2-6 v RPI TOP 50, 4-9 v RPI TOP 100, 18-2 v RPI 101+, 9-6 R/N, AVG RPI WIN 151, AVG RPI LOSS 40

I think we can cross out the last three teams in this group. Seton Hall had a good year against a tough schedule, but in the end, 6-12 against the top 100 isn't going to get it done. Rhode Island's one win against the top 50 won't cut it either, nor will Ole Miss' four wins against the top 100. So it's down to 5 teams for 2 bids.

Wake looks like it doesn't belong on the list with the other four, but the Demon Deacons were simply awful down the stretch, punctuated by an embarrassing blowout at the hands of 12-seed Miami (FL) in the ACC tournament's first round. Illinois got a much needed win against Wisconsin and took Ohio State to double overtime, but the Illini lost six of eight games to close the season. Virginia Tech went 10-6 in the ACC, but has nothing to show for its nonconference slate, and has an embarrassing average RPI win of 170. Mississippi State has a lot of bad losses, but put itself back into the discussion with a strong SEC tourney run capped by a brutal overtime loss against Kentucky. So who makes it?

It's an extremely tough call and I wouldn't really have any complaints about any pair from those five teams making it, but in the end I'll go with Florida and Wake Forest. The Gators had a decent nonconference output, played a tough schedule and split with Mississippi State in the head-to-head matchup. As difficult as it is to open the door for the Deacs with how bad they've been down the stretch, they simply have accomplished too much this season to banish them to the NIT.

As for the ones I left out, Illinois was the toughest not to include, since, as you'll recall, I had the Illini in the tournament yesterday. But they just had a few too many headscratching losses that nullified their big wins. Mississippi State has nobody to blame but itself if the Bulldogs don't get in. Losing to Rider, Western Kentucky, Arkansas and Auburn just outweighs their two quality wins and today's strong performance against Kentucky. And Virginia Tech, to me, is this year's Penn State. The Hokies' 10-6 record in conference is big, but their schedule was just too weak to justify putting them in over Florida or Wake.

There it is! Less than a half-hour to go. I'll be back later, of course, with first reactions to the brackets. Enjoy the show everybody, we made it!

65-team field prediction
AQs: Cornell, Winthrop, East Tennessee State, Murray State, Northern Iowa, Old Dominion, Siena, St. Mary's (CA), Wofford, North Texas, Butler, Oakland, Robert Morris, Montana, Lehigh, Houston, Vermont, Morgan State, Sam Houston State, Kansas, Ohio, Washington, San Diego State, Arkansas-Pine Bluff, UC Santa Barbara, West Virginia, New Mexico State, Temple, Kentucky, Duke, Ohio State

At-larges: Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Georgetown, Marquette, Louisville, Notre Dame, Villanova, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Maryland, Georgia Tech, Florida State, Clemson, Michigan State, Purdue, Wisconsin, Kansas State, Baylor, Texas, Texas A&M, Missouri, Oklahoma State, UTEP, Gonzaga, Xavier, Richmond, New Mexico, BYU, UNLV, Utah State, California, Minnesota, Florida, Wake Forest
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That's twice that Butler threw up a prayer and was rewarded. He's not a hero, he's a lucky piece of sh it D-League bricklayer. Ask this dude to make a clutch free throw and he couldn't do it to save his girl's life. He's proven incapable of closing out games. But now he's a hero because two hopeless shots he threw up were pushed in by the redneck coonskin wearing gods. That team is still one giant underachieving lump of sh it and I won't hear otherwise.
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That's twice that Butler threw up a prayer and was rewarded. He's not a hero, he's a lucky piece of sh it D-League bricklayer. Ask this dude to make a clutch free throw and he couldn't do it to save his girl's life. He's proven incapable of closing out games. But now he's a hero because two hopeless shots he threw up were pushed in by the redneck coonskin wearing gods. That team is still one giant underachieving lump of sh it and I won't hear otherwise.


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Unless you didn't bother fu cking around with the spread and took Georgetown on the money line like me. Fu ck West Virginia, I hope Bob Huggins dies of another heart attack.
Hell yeah losing games like that brings out the worst in me.
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