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Old 03-03-2010, 08:21 PM
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You actually think Stronach needs the potential revenue from the sale of Santa Anita to 'retire'?
Doesnt really matter what I think, but maybe.
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Old 03-04-2010, 08:18 AM
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Doesnt really matter what I think, but maybe.
Frank Stronach's rather enormous personal fortune is unencumbered by the MEC situation.
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Old 03-04-2010, 08:21 AM
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Horsemen dismayed by Stronach's stance
By Steve Andersen

http://www.drf.com/news/article/111176.html

ARCADIA, Calif. - Comments by Santa Anita chairman Frank Stronach that he intends to retain the track's troubled synthetic surface were met with disappointment Wednesday by some horsemen who would like the track to return to a dirt surface.

Darrell Vienna, the Southern California vice president of the California Thoroughbred Trainers, said his organization wants the existing Pro-Ride surface replaced in the near future. "The CTT has taken an official position for a return to dirt and anti-synthetic in general," Vienna said Wednesday. "What we all want is the safest surface we can get, whether it's synthetic or dirt. At this point, our members want a new natural dirt surface. The synthetic track has failed us in too many regards." Vienna said the CTT wants to "uncouple" Stronach's wish for deregulation in racing with the issue of racing surfaces, adding, "I don't want to minimize his concern for deregulation."

"The whole thing with the track surface was a surprise," said owner Arnold Zetcher, a member of the Thoroughbred Owners of California's board of directors. Zetcher said he is most concerned with safety, regardless of the type of surface used at Santa Anita. "After the Breeders' Cup, the sentiment was to stay" with synthetics, Zetcher said. "Then, the sentiment went to dirt. It shouldn't be about sentiments, it should be what's best for horses."
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Old 03-04-2010, 09:04 AM
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Frank Stronach's rather enormous personal fortune is unencumbered by the MEC situation.
You figure he is still super sizing the value
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Old 03-04-2010, 09:28 AM
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You figure he is still super sizing the value
Did you hear Jerry Jamgotchian's take on Stronach's possible gambit in regards to the deregulation? Was very interesting. He called in response to Davidowitz' suggestion that Stronach is a serial failure running racetracks and should sell out. Jamgotchian, who has been three steps ahead predicting every misstep by California racing, thinks Stronach is shrewdly planning to expand Santa Anita's race date domain.
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Old 03-04-2010, 09:35 AM
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Did you hear Jerry Jamgotchian's take on Stronach's possible gambit in regards to the deregulation? Was very interesting. He called in response to Davidowitz' suggestion that Stronach is a serial failure running racetracks and should sell out. Jamgotchian, who has been three steps ahead predicting every misstep by California racing, thinks Stronach is shrewdly planning to expand Santa Anita's race date domain.
Isn't this exactly what happened down in Florida(deregulation) after he purchased Gulfstream?

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Isn't this exactly what happened down in Florida(deregulation) after he purchased Gulfstream?
Deregulation happened 10 years before Stronach bought Gulfstream (1999). The war between Brunetti and Gulfstream had been well underway.
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Gulfstream blows. Bring back Hialeah full time.
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Did you hear Jerry Jamgotchian's take on Stronach's possible gambit in regards to the deregulation? Was very interesting. He called in response to Davidowitz' suggestion that Stronach is a serial failure running racetracks and should sell out. Jamgotchian, who has been three steps ahead predicting every misstep by California racing, thinks Stronach is shrewdly planning to expand Santa Anita's race date domain.
With HP on the way to death isnt it just a matter of time?
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Old 03-04-2010, 12:50 PM
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Frank's new surface is a bargaining chip.
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Old 03-04-2010, 01:08 PM
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With HP on the way to death isnt it just a matter of time?
Hollywood's dates aren't the only issue. First, Jamgotchian intimated that Stronach is going to pull the plug on Oak Tree, or stick a gun in Sherwood Chillingworth's ribs at the very least. Then, fold in the real uncertainty surrounding the County Fairgounds situation at Del Mar, and you can see where things could be headed.

Point here was, Jamgotchian's message should be well taken: Never sell the machinations of Stronach short. He's a shrewd guy.
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Hollywood's dates aren't the only issue. First, Jamgotchian intimated that Stronach is going to pull the plug on Oak Tree, or stick a gun in Sherwood Chillingworth's ribs at the very least. Then, fold in the real uncertainty surrounding the County Fairgounds situation at Del Mar, and you can see where things could be headed.

Point here was, Jamgotchian's message should be well taken: Never sell the machinations of Stronach short. He's a shrewd guy.
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Old 03-04-2010, 01:18 PM
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Hollywood's dates aren't the only issue. First, Jamgotchian intimated that Stronach is going to pull the plug on Oak Tree, or stick a gun in Sherwood Chillingworth's ribs at the very least. Then, fold in the real uncertainty surrounding the County Fairgounds situation at Del Mar, and you can see where things could be headed.

Point here was, Jamgotchian's message should be well taken: Never sell the machinations of Stronach short. He's a shrewd guy.
He wants to dissolve the Oak Tree meet? Isn't the Oak Tree meet beyond approach? If I was Stonach I wouldnt pay for a new surface either.. For what it wasnt his doing? Steve the guy is a billionaire you think it was luck?lol Of course he is smart although Magna hasnt been his crowning achievement.
Unless someone gets some people to buy some horses and race them in California Stronach can do whatever he wants he aint fixing anything without stock and Hedge Fund is currently unavailable
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