Gulfstream 10: Off turf as horses leave the paddock.. again!

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by robfla

Unfortunately, they can't control the weather. I just left there and it is nasty out and has been raining steadily for about an hour.

p.s. I have pick 3's alive.

Bullschit.. It's an "ALL" payout in the P4's, P3's and Double. Anything else would be felonious. And they knew there were thunderstorms coming. I phucking forecast the damn thing at 7:30am for crist sake. They should have taken it off the turf WELL BEFORE the start of the P4 the way NYRA does to give horseman the chance to scratch and players a chance to make decisions. This is at least the 2nd time they've pulled this stunt. The place is hopeless.

[kgar311]

Its SUNNY!!! hahahahahaahahahhahh

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Bullschit.. It's an "ALL" payout in the P4's, P3's and Double. Anything else would be felonious. And they knew there were thunderstorms coming. I phucking forecast the damn thing at 7:30am for crist sake. They should have taken it off the turf WELL BEFORE the start of the P4 the way NYRA does to give horseman the chance to scratch and players a chance to make decisions. This is at least the 2nd time they've pulled this stunt. The place is hopeless.

No All payout on the exotics. That is unbelievable.

[pmacdaddy]

How do you pay out to that winner in a pk4? That's garbage.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

It's kind of amusing that the eventual winner of the race was 9-0-0-0 lifetime on turf and synthetics ... and his lone career dirt race was a very good 2nd at 13/1 odds splitting a pair of next out winners and running a dirt figure that made him the fields most likely winner on dirt.

[robfla]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

It's kind of amusing that the eventual winner of the race was 9-0-0-0 lifetime on turf and synthetics ... and his lone career dirt race was a very good 2nd at 13/1 odds splitting a pair of next out winners and running a dirt figure that made him the fields most likely winner on dirt.

he went from 11:1 to 5:1 when the announced the surface switch

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by robfla

he went from 11:1 to 5:1 when the announced the surface switch

Not to get in to the handicapping of the race - because it would be after the fact - but even with his odds moving like that ... I was VERY surprised by the odds on several horses in there and it really felt like the race was being run on turf how it was bet.

I got KO'd in the multi-wins the previous race .. but I think anyone who was alive going into the last race has a right to be incredibly pissed off... especially considering which horse won.

[pointman]

I agree with Steve, that rule is criminal. If I had a live pk4 ticket I would be abolutely furious right now.

[robfla]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Not to get in to the handicapping of the race - because it would be after the fact - but even with his odds moving like that ... I was VERY surprised by the odds on several horses in there and it really felt like the race was being run on turf how it was bet.

I got KO'd in the multi-wins the previous race .. but I think anyone who was alive going into the last race has a right to be incredibly pissed off... especially considering which horse won.

I am sure it is because several factors, which MAY be any of the below:

• people are too lazy to handicap the race again, and change tickets after the switch
• some people don't care
• some may not have known ( the P.A. system in some parts of the track suck )

[2MinsToPost]

That is a total bs move to the people who help fuel this sport, the last leg 7 mins to post

You gotta conso the players who have spent time capping and played their ticket(s)

Its a great place to visit after my first trip south down 95 a little over a week ago but if I was in person at the track I would be livid

[mclem0822]

Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

That is a total bs move to the people who help fuel this sport, the last leg 7 mins to post

You gotta conso the players who have spent time capping and played their ticket(s)

Its a great place to visit after my first trip south down 95 a little over a week ago but if I was in person at the track I would be livid

Well put, it's a crock of sh*t!

[2MinsToPost]

Originally Posted by mclem0822

Well put, it's a crock of sh*t!

After meeting a few from this board at a local otb here in Jacksonville I went back and played a small 50 cent pick 4 so I only lost $18 and did not have the first leg as I stayed with the 2 as my single but still total bs

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Scav

No All payout on the exotics. That is unbelievable.

It's their FL state law and it's happened once already this year and I was reminded of another time 2 years ago by Andy.

It's pathetic. And as I said, felonious.

[Alan07]

http://theinsidepost.typepad.com/the...-bettors-.html

GULFSTREAM: No regard for the bettors

Mike Welsch - Gulfstream
02/27/2010 05:51:58 PM

The tenth race has been taken off the turf. The decision was made with the field in the paddock. That means anybody who bet late pick-3's, pick'4-s, daily doubles and the pick-6 are all stuck with their selections made for the grass. According to track management, the jockeys declined to ride the finale on the turf after returning from The Very One.

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by Alan07

http://theinsidepost.typepad.com/the...-bettors-.html

Quick fix: Management grows some balls and says if you dont mount your horses you are barred for the rest of the meet!! Guess what happens? everyone gets a leg up and the race goes on as scheduled

[Scav]

Originally Posted by kgar311

Quick fix: Management grows some balls and says if you dont mount your horses you are barred for the rest of the meet!! Guess what happens? everyone gets a leg up and the race goes on as scheduled

Yeah, that is way to do it.

[JohnGalt1]

Originally Posted by Kasept

It's their FL state law and it's happened once already this year and I was reminded of another time 2 years ago by Andy.

It's pathetic. And as I said, felonious.

These situations are why we need a national commissioner and standardized rules.

[robfla]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Bullschit.. It's an "ALL" payout in the P4's, P3's and Double. Anything else would be felonious. And they knew there were thunderstorms coming. I phucking forecast the damn thing at 7:30am for crist sake. They should have taken it off the turf WELL BEFORE the start of the P4 the way NYRA does to give horseman the chance to scratch and players a chance to make decisions. This is at least the 2nd time they've pulled this stunt. The place is hopeless.

Oh, I agree.. I was simply stating that they can't control weather.

I was talking to a friend of mine before the 8th and he liked a horse in the last race, but was afraid they may take it off the turf, so he didn't play the P3. That's when I said to him to look at the clouds and any imbecile can see it is going to rain for a while. Plus with weather technology the way it is, they certainly knew it was coming. Like you said, they should have made the call before the 7th. Unfortunately the rules in New York don't apply in Fla., but they should change it so it does