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Old 02-11-2010, 11:39 PM
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I would have preferred to stay out of this thread, but I was flabbergasted by dala's statement that the Cavs were better last year. It made zero sense to me. I realize Shaq is 1/20th of the player he used to be, but having him instead of Ben Wallace?? Come on. That's a huge and significant upgrade. Losing Pavlovic and Sczerbiak is a huge upgrade no matter who raplaces them...Parker, Moon etc. It's another upgrade. LeBron, Varejao, Hickson are all better than they were last year. The only major issue where they have gone down from last year is Delonte West's personal craziness. He's slipped and has been pretty much a non-entity most of the year and it hasn't really affected them. Don't even know if he'll be available come playoff time with court dates and everything.

What noone talks about is the Leon Powe reports are all postive about where he stands physically. He's precticing without issue. He's going to be added to the roster the second half. Another physical presence. With or without Jamison, they are undoubtedly better than last year. Whether they can win a title I have no idea. But I think they have more of a chance than last year whether they acquire Jamison or not.
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Old 02-11-2010, 11:43 PM
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I would have preferred to stay out of this thread, but I was flabbergasted by dala's statement that the Cavs were better last year. It made zero sense to me. I realize Shaq is 1/20th of the player he used to be, but having him instead of Ben Wallace?? Come on. That's a huge and significant upgrade. Losing Pavlovic and Sczerbiak is a huge upgrade no matter who raplaces them...Parker, Moon etc. It's another upgrade. LeBron, Varejao, Hickson are all better than they were last year. The only major issue where they have gone down from last year is Delonte West's personal craziness. He's slipped and has been pretty much a non-entity most of the year and it hasn't really affected them. Don't even know if he'll be available come playoff time with court dates and everything.

What noone talks about is the Leon Powe reports are all postive about where he stands physically. He's precticing without issue. He's going to be added to the roster the second half. Another physical presence. With or without Jamison, they are undoubtedly better than last year. Whether they can win a title I have no idea. But I think they have more of a chance than last year whether they acquire Jamison or not.
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Old 02-11-2010, 11:47 PM
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You need to control your flabber.
I know you dont' think they can win it all which is fine. I don't really know either. I'm pretty dumb on face value. Just face the obvious truth that despite you thinking they can't win, they are undoubtedly a better team this year. You are so wrong by saying they were better last year it's beyond stupid. Yes, stupid.
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Old 02-11-2010, 11:49 PM
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and in the end I presented logical reasons why they certainly appeared to me to be a better team this year, and you countered with nothing. Zero. So my only conclusion is you are wrong and you know it.
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Old 02-11-2010, 11:50 PM
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I know you dont' think they can win it all which is fine. I don't really know either. I'm pretty dumb on face value. Just face the obvious truth that despite you thinking they can't win, they are undoubtedly a better team this year. You are so wrong by saying they were better last year it's beyond stupid. Yes, stupid.
Yes, stupid. They are better this year.

Relax my friend. I apologize if I insulted you.
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Old 02-11-2010, 11:54 PM
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Yes, stupid. They are better this year.

Relax my friend. I apologize if I insulted you.
Thank you. I'm not insulted about anything. I know this team. I follow this team. I saw issues last year. I really don't see as many this year. I don't. And they have improved and they have the best player on the floor every single game they play. Yes, even when they play the Lakers!!! (and you know it!)
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Old 02-12-2010, 12:00 AM
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Thank you. I'm not insulted about anything. I know this team. I follow this team. I saw issues last year. I really don't see as many this year. I don't. And they have improved and they have the best player on the floor every single game they play. Yes, even when they play the Lakers!!! (and you know it!)
Youre getting all worked up and you are obviously emotional where I am indifferent to the subject. You make a compelling case and I agree with what you say. My original premise that they are not as good as last year was off the mark. It isnt the first or the last time that will be the case.

Lebron is the best player in the league at this point and anyone that disagrees is just in denial. They still aren't good enough to beat the lakers and if Boston adds a piece and gets healthy they won't get out of the east.
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Youre getting all worked up and you are obviously emotional where I am indifferent to the subject. You make a compelling case and I agree with what you say. My original premise that they are not as good as last year was off the mark. It isnt the first or the last time that will be the case.

Lebron is the best player in the league at this point and anyone that disagrees is just in denial. They still aren't good enough to beat the lakers and if Boston adds a piece and gets healthy they won't get out of the east.
Have you watched Boston? What piece are they adding that makes a difference? Miami trading Wade for Eddie House? Stick a fork in Boston, they are cooked and even they know it.
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Old 02-11-2010, 11:55 PM
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and in the end I presented logical reasons why they certainly appeared to me to be a better team this year, and you countered with nothing. Zero. So my only conclusion is you are wrong and you know it.



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