85 in a 50!!

[pointman]

Originally Posted by cannonman

Im my opinion, the NYRA hit a walk off, grand slam homerun, here. The NYRA product has been inept for some time, (decades) and now they have an incident they can/might/probably, milk.

Degeneratates/psychophants/ hardcore chronic losers and others will
have someting to stew over, but why bet this circuit in the winter, or ever.
Rather be flogged!

Seems to me there has been excellent value this winter, did you see what the early pk4 paid?

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by pointman

Seems to me there has been excellent value this winter, did you see what the early pk4 paid?

I didn't play this weekend but there too many times where there are 5 horses and nothing pays tax money. I mean how much can the all Fav Ramon Dominguez pick 3, 4 pay? Maybe that's changed I wouldn't know.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

I didn't play this weekend but there too many times where there are 5 horses and nothing pays tax money. I mean how much can the all Fav Ramon Dominguez pick 3, 4 pay? Maybe that's changed I wouldn't know.

$2 P4 payouts the last 8 days of AQU racing:

$1,646
$15,364

$686
$67

$219
$189

$5,075
$723

$172
$39

$13,918
$252

$2,117
$436

$6,576
$853

If you exclude the 2 extremes ($13k/$15k highs and $67/$39 lows), the average P4 payoff the last 2 weeks is about $1,450.

Including the extremes, it would be close to $3,000.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Kasept

$2 P4 payouts the last 8 days of AQU racing:

$1,646
$15,364

$686
$67

$219
$189

$5,075
$723

$172
$39

$13,918
$252

$2,117
$436

$6,576
$853

If you exclude the 2 extremes ($13k/$15k highs and $67/$39 lows), the average P4 payoff the last 2 weeks is about $1,450.

Including the extremes, it would be close to $3,000.

none of that means squat! the heavy fave didn't win, so nyra sucks...or something like that.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Danzig

none of that means squat! the heavy fave didn't win, so nyra sucks...or something like that.

To be fair, I think John was saying that because Dominguez-riden short-priced winners come in regularly on the inner, P3 and P4 prices are depressed, and that can happen. In fact though, the opposite can be true as the quad prices show, because when those short-priced faves fail, the payouts are inflated. Point is, the multi-race sequence bets during the AQU winter are likely no lower on average than during the higher quality spring, summer and fall meets at BEL, SAR and AQU.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by Kasept

To be fair, I think John was saying that because Dominguez-riden short-priced winners come in regularly on the inner, P3 and P4 prices are depressed, and that can happen. In fact though, the opposite can be true as the quad prices show, because when those short-priced faves fail, the payouts are inflated. Point is, the multi-race sequence bets during the AQU winter are likely no lower on average than during the higher quality spring, summer and fall meets at BEL, SAR and AQU.

what Steve said

I don't play if I think it will be a chalk-fest it just doesn't excite me

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Kasept

To be fair, I think John was saying that because Dominguez-riden short-priced winners come in regularly on the inner, P3 and P4 prices are depressed, and that can happen. In fact though, the opposite can be true as the quad prices show, because when those short-priced faves fail, the payouts are inflated. Point is, the multi-race sequence bets during the AQU winter are likely no lower on average than during the higher quality spring, summer and fall meets at BEL, SAR and AQU.

right, as your info showed. i just think he might feel that one or two races would be indicative of betting in general there, and that simply isn't true. yes, all racetracks on occasion have small fields in certain races, but perhaps focusing only on potential derby preps isn't the way to go.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

I didn't play this weekend but there too many times where there are 5 horses and nothing pays tax money. I mean how much can the all Fav Ramon Dominguez pick 3, 4 pay? Maybe that's changed I wouldn't know.

The Dominguez factor works both ways, sure it creates a lot of underlays on horses he is riding, but it also creates overlays on other horses in the race which can often turn into nice scores. As Steve has pointed out, the value has been there at the Big A over the winter no worse than any other time of year.