No Middle Class Tax Hikes?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Lets call it like it is. Obama knows it. Dems know it and Cons know it but no one dares touch it.

My inner conservative comes out and rears its ugly head every now and then. Entitlement spending is killing us and is getting worse every day. You want to fix the budget? Fix the entitlements.

Now can Obama do it? NO...conservatives will kill him just like democrats killed Bush when he made a feeble stab at it and so on and so on.

are you kidding me? His healthcare bill would be the biggest entitlement ever. His aunt has lived solely on entitlements. A good portion of his political base live off entitlements. His plans from education to transportation to global warming all involve entitlements. Not all his fault though, he comes from entitlement world.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

are you kidding me? His healthcare bill would be the biggest entitlement ever. His aunt has lived solely on entitlements. A good portion of his political base live off entitlements. His plans from education to transportation to global warming all involve entitlements. Not all his fault though, he comes from entitlement world.

Social Security, medicaid and medicare are the biggest entitlements. There aren't a bunch of republicans in that camp?

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Social Security, medicaid and medicare are the biggest entitlements. There aren't a bunch of republicans in that camp?

Anxious Mitch has his head up Humana's ass sideways.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Social Security, medicaid and medicare are the biggest entitlements. There aren't a bunch of republicans in that camp?

I would argue Social Security is a Ponzi Scheme but totally agree on medicaid and medicare and the abuses they have provided.

[joeydb]

END the entitlements. There, I said it. They were never sustainable. There is truly be no such thing as an "entitlement", in spite of the frequency and energy with which that political term has been used. You are not entitled to anyone else's money but your own.

Sunset the social security program. Nobody is getting any "yield" on this "retirement program". You get less money than what you put in, if and when the government sees fit to pay you. I'm at the age where I'm not likely to see a dime from it, yet I'm forced to pay the FICA line item out of my check.

It's time to end the supremacy of the non-contributor. If you don't work, then you can't expect to live like you do work. Keep unemployment compensation and make real statistics on what the TRUE unemployment numbers are. At least that requires that we keep looking for jobs.

Everything, every budget entry: social programs, military spending, all of it must be eligible to be slashed. Foreign aid should become a thing of the past -- we can't afford it any more, and borrowing money from China to give to Haiti or any other country is ridiculous. And let's start calling in the loans we gave others, just like China expects us to pay up.

Liberalism is an obsolete anachronism that was a nuisance infection to the body that is the United States, and we have allowed it to grow to the point where it is life threatening.

The national debt MUST be REPAID. That's the only way to truly preserve the individual freedoms we have. Debtors are never free -- they are always beholden to their creditors -- until the debt is paid off.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

well why dont we collect debts that are owed from other countrys to u.s.
trillions are in the mix.we need to look out for no 1 at some point.

[dalakhani]

The issue i have with entitlements is not the entitlements themselves. Look...as a country, we can't have our elderly on the street. At the same time, why should a person that doesnt NEED it still get it? We just did a loan for someone with a 10k square foot house on 17 acres that gets social security. Amazing. And yes...Republican! One has to wonder how many situations that are out there like that.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

The issue i have with entitlements is not the entitlements themselves. Look...as a country, we can't have our elderly on the street. At the same time, why should a person that doesnt NEED it still get it? We just did a loan for someone with a 10k square foot house on 17 acres that gets social security. Amazing. And yes...Republican! One has to wonder how many situations that are out there like that.

If you pay in 6 or 12 % of your salary into it (depending if you are self employed) why would you not want some of it back? Its your money anyways?

I'm just really pissed that i'll be paying whatever % my whole life and I'll see very little.

They need to eliminate the way SS is done and privatize retirement funds. Its basically the Gov stealing right from your pocket because this is supposed to be your own darn retirement money and you see very little in return.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

well why dont we collect debts that are owed from other countrys to u.s.
trillions are in the mix.we need to look out for no 1 at some point.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Well, yes about the debt, and we'd better not hope other countries try to collect our debt to them.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

END the entitlements. There, I said it. They were never sustainable. There is truly be no such thing as an "entitlement", in spite of the frequency and energy with which that political term has been used. You are not entitled to anyone else's money but your own.

Sunset the social security program. Nobody is getting any "yield" on this "retirement program". You get less money than what you put in, if and when the government sees fit to pay you. I'm at the age where I'm not likely to see a dime from it, yet I'm forced to pay the FICA line item out of my check.

It's time to end the supremacy of the non-contributor. If you don't work, then you can't expect to live like you do work. Keep unemployment compensation and make real statistics on what the TRUE unemployment numbers are. At least that requires that we keep looking for jobs.

Everything, every budget entry: social programs, military spending, all of it must be eligible to be slashed. Foreign aid should become a thing of the past -- we can't afford it any more, and borrowing money from China to give to Haiti or any other country is ridiculous. And let's start calling in the loans we gave others, just like China expects us to pay up.

Liberalism is an obsolete anachronism that was a nuisance infection to the body that is the United States, and we have allowed it to grow to the point where it is life threatening.

The national debt MUST be REPAID. That's the only way to truly preserve the individual freedoms we have. Debtors are never free -- they are always beholden to their creditors -- until the debt is paid off.

I agree. As for other posts where this one is a secret dem or rep-keep in mind they are pols first last and always. They must pick a party for the money, not because of ideology