The Michael Gill/Penn National Riders Saga

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Divorced but friends

So she doesn't share her "juice"

[MISTERGEE]

what is the highest winning percentage trainer maybe for a meet with over 50 starts because there is a guy at Delta by the name Of Tony Richey who is 33 for 73 thats 45% almost win one, lose one, win one, lose one. That must be nice!

[Thoroughbred Fan]

An honest trainer, with lack of alchemy skill, can get to maybe 30% on a hot streak at a meet with agressive placing. Anything above 25% should still get the hairy eyeball.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

So she doesn't share her "juice"

Her stuff is better than Todd's ... or any other Beattie for that matter.

When her horses ran under her boyfriends name (David Wells) ... look out.


Since 2004 .. horses racing in the name of trainer David Wells are 115-for-305 - winning at a mere 37.7% clip and with an impossible ROI of $2.84 ... yeah, a 42% profit on the betting dollar from an over 300 race sample size ....

Yeah ... there's your girl voted homecoming queen.

Gill is just the big dopey action fiend that all the horse people want run out of town. I don't blame them for their efforts. He's an easy guy to hate ... and Gill is taking a big chunk of pie they'd like split up among them.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Her stuff is better than Todd's ... or any other Beattie for that matter.

When her horses ran under her boyfriends name (David Wells) ... look out.


Since 2004 .. horses racing in the name of trainer David Wells are 115-for-305 - winning at a mere 37.7% clip and with an impossible ROI of $2.84 ... yeah, a 42% profit on the betting dollar from an over 300 race sample size ....

Yeah ... there's your girl voted homecoming queen.

Gill is just the big dopey action fiend that all the horse people want run out of town. I don't blame them for their efforts. He's an easy guy to hate ... and Gill is taking a big chunk of pie they'd like split up among them.

You really think this is ALL about trainers being pissed that Gill is winning races? They voted the woman/trainer above president, you just proved that she is grabbing a ton of the pie. So they hate Gill because he is taking the Pie and like Beattie? I dont get it.. You think the jocks care who pays them 10% of the purse? You think all the trainers banned together talked to the jocks and got them to boycott Gill? Come on they are falling at 35mph with 1100lb horses trouncing them? Sure they hate Gill for claiming there stock but do you see the Jocks banning together to boycott super trainer Jaime Ness?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I know this much ... Gill is being blown way out of proportion... and unlike Beattie or Ness .. he's not a respected horsemen and he's very easy to dislike.

When you run more than everyone else ... and when you claim the type of horses he claims ... and when you're reluctant to back off ... you're probably going to have the most breakdowns.

A few of his horses who were eased also came right back to run competitive a few weeks later. Imagine that ... jockeys courageous enough to ride Gill horses who had been eased just a few weeks earlier.

[Duvalier]

Wonder who is going to be the next trainer to step in and take over the Gill operation?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Freddy Mo.

Gill had his own trainers license and horses ran at Rockingham Park under his own name for a short time in the mid 90's.

I think he got hit with a clenbuterol and they found syringes in his barn or something.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Freddy Mo.

Gill had his own trainers license and horses ran at Rockingham Park under his own name for a short time in the mid 90's.

I think he got hit with a clenbuterol and they found syringes in his barn or something.

I have no clue what possess a man to be king of the nickel claimers

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by freddymo

You really think this is ALL about trainers being pissed that Gill is winning races? They voted the woman/trainer above president, you just proved that she is grabbing a ton of the pie. So they hate Gill because he is taking the Pie and like Beattie? I dont get it..

Maybe this might help ...

Layne Giliforte Says:

March 7, 2009 at 10:17 pm | Reply

I personally have been the beneficiary of 11 of his astute claims and can tell you I am not sour grapes. That proof is apparent by the fact that of 11 horses he has taken off me in about 8 months, he has had 3 wins and is making money with NONE of them. But what I can admit to is that the arrogant, ego maniac is dramatically affecting my business as well as directly affecting my family, children and my employees and their families. Is this a good guy? I guy we need in our sport? I don’t think he is a guy we need in our society but unfortunately that’s something we can’t do anything about. But I can also ask, is he a family man? If so, how we he feel if his family and children were directly being torn apart by one person’s obsession with his own ego? I can honestly say I hope he finds out someday.

By the way .. that was from March ... since May, he's claimed 13 more horses off of Giliforte.

That's a combined total of 24 claims - of which he probably did Giliforte's owner about 21 or 22 favors... but he did Giliforte himself and his operation no favors.

The 13 taken from Giliforte since May are more than any other trainer. Wonder Juicer/HBPA President Steph Beattie is 2nd in the Gill claiming crosshairs... she's had 11 taken from her by Gill over that same span.