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Old 01-26-2010, 09:51 AM
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I don't think you can tell the difference. I've seen the soundest horses breakdown. Bad steps happen. I've also seen a horse who couldn't really work between starts win about 100k in a year in lower level claimers.

Making the call as to when the horse should and shouldn't be run is not as black and white as you seem to think.

You are right when you say accidents do happen but I would say that any dilligent trainer should and would know what is going on with their stock.
It is apparent that riders have noticed a trend with Gill's horses and they have noticed enough to know it isnt worth the risk to ride them , for now anyway.
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Old 01-26-2010, 09:56 AM
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You are right when you say accidents do happen but I would say that any dilligent trainer should and would know what is going on with their stock.
It is apparent that riders have noticed a trend with Gill's horses and they have noticed enough to know it isnt worth the risk to ride them , for now anyway.
They won't even ride in races if they did ship in someone to ride the stock..That is saying a lot.
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Old 01-26-2010, 11:05 AM
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Gill has 2 in tomorrow, will his entries get scratched?
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Old 01-26-2010, 11:33 AM
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They won't even ride in races if they did ship in someone to ride the stock..That is saying a lot.
You're talking about Penn National .... a place where Steph Beattie (best juice ever?) gets elected president of the HPBA.
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Old 01-26-2010, 11:37 AM
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You're talking about Penn National .... a place where Steph Beattie (best juice ever?) gets elected president of the HPBA.
I voted for her.. Steph Beattie is aggressive were she places horses. When was her last positive?
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Old 01-26-2010, 11:43 AM
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she probably won because all the other beatties stuffed the ballot
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Old 01-26-2010, 12:52 PM
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I voted for her.. Steph Beattie is aggressive were she places horses. When was her last positive?
She's had a few recent suspensions.

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/rac...uspension.aspx

Not to mention she single handedly accounted for 13 of the first 48 steroid overages at the states 3 race tracks....but hey, only doing stuff at 27% has to feel like a gigantic disapointment for her.

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Using archived result charts, I was able to look up each race where a horse tested positive out of and identify each trainer of the 48 horses. The list was dominated by one in-state trainer and featured multiple offenses from a few others.

One high-profile trainer whose army of horses didn't produce a single positive test was Scott Lake, who currently ranks second in the nation in races won and has a large stable racing in Pennsylvania. While the big-volume Lake stable pitched a shutout, horses trained by the magical Stephanie Beattie racked up an alarming 13 positive steroid tests -- eight more than the next highest trainer.
And I wouldn't care if she never had a positive... all I need to do is witness the form reversals and observe her magic to know she's possibly the games greatest alchemist of the past decade.
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Old 01-26-2010, 12:54 PM
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She's had a few recent suspensions.

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/rac...uspension.aspx

Not to mention she single handedly accounted for 13 of the first 48 steroid overages at the states 3 race tracks....but hey, only doing stuff at 27% has to feel like a gigantic disapointment for her.



And I wouldn't care if she never had a positive... all I need to do is witness the form reversals and observe her magic to know she's possibly the games greatest alchemist of the past decade.
Todd must be so proud.
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