An unfunny joke

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

yeah he statistically wiped the floor with him. That's kinda easy to do when you don't actually have to cover anyone and you go for the ball every play instead of trying to tackle someone, while the other guy is so goddam good that he causes incompletions on 63% of the passes thrown his way and never needs to be sent at the quarterback. Free safeties get more tackles and INTs than D-Linemen, does that make them better defenders? I don't ever recall Reggie White or Bruce Smith getting attacked for only "doing one thing" yet Revis is docked points for not being needed to roam like Woodson? Go ahead again and look at the receivers Revis faced. He fu cking dominated everyone he played and he was by far the biggest reason for the Jets having by far the best pass defense in the NFL. But I guess allowing your defense to send a billion people at the QB thus creating the league's best pass defense and shutting down half of the field doesn't mean as much as "stats." Well here you go: QBs had a 32.3 rating when they threw at Revis. Woodson is third at 51.8. Revis broke up almost three times as many passes as Woodson. Woodson gave up 5 TDs to Revis's 2 (one was on a 4-yard slant that no one could've defended). Woodson was penalized twice as much as Revis. Give me a fu cking break. We saw what Woodson is about in that Cardinal game. He falls down on one TD, gets blown up by Fitzgerald on another and then gives up 15 yards of crucial field position in the final seconds by stripping instead of tackling. While Revis routinely eliminates the QB's binkie, creating a ripple effect in the opponent's pass offense. Oh and he owns Moss. Owns him. Take that "statistically wiped the floor" sh it somewhere else. Revis may have had the best season a CB has ever had while Woodson does what he always does: makes a highlight or gets burned. Woodson had a good year, Revis had a great one.

I wonder if this is how people who think either Rachel or Zenyatta could win HOY without having a real opinion feel when someone goes off the deep end about why one or the other is far superior and feel the need to disparage the other one despite the fact that they had a sensational season?

Shutdown corner against whom you can make a plan B once he takes away your top receiver vs. sensational defensive all-arounder for whom you can't make a plan B.

It was a toss up. You lost.

Game over. Woodson won.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I wonder if this is how people who think either Rachel or Zenyatta could win HOY without having a real opinion feel when someone goes off the deep end about why one or the other is far superior and feel the need to disparage the other one despite the fact that they had a sensational season?

Shutdown corner against whom you can make a plan B once he takes away your top receiver vs. sensational defensive all-arounder for whom you can't make a plan B.

It was a toss up. You lost.

Game over. Woodson won.

A player who never makes a mistake and shuts down half the field vs. a player who will make an important play once in a while but will blow important plays as well.

Why was it a toss up if Woodson "wiped the floor" with Revis statistically?

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

A player who never makes a mistake and shuts down half the field vs. a player who will make an important play once in a while but will blow important plays as well.

Why was it a toss up if Woodson "wiped the floor" with Revis statistically?

Because, is the defensive player of the year the one who is the best shutdown corner or the one who is the best overall player for the year?

See, that's why I'm in the Rachel camp in the HOY debate, and it's strangely apt here, since you're basically saying that being awesome at one thing (beating boys in the Classic) should trump being a terror in everything defensively (being a terror all year long).

That's why it's a toss-up. You care about a guy playing in New York being the best shutdown corner in the league. I don't particularly care for whom you root when trying to figure out which guy I think is deserving. I see the argument for both, but your absolutism is so off-putting I'm learning to love Woodson and his Packer Green all over again...and by all over again, I mean for the very first time, I since I kind of hate him considering he's on the Packers.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Because, is the defensive player of the year the one who is the best shutdown corner or the one who is the best overall player for the year?

See, that's why I'm in the Rachel camp in the HOY debate, and it's strangely apt here, since you're basically saying that being awesome at one thing (beating boys in the Classic) should trump being a terror in everything defensively (being a terror all year long).

That's why it's a toss-up. You care about a guy playing in New York being the best shutdown corner in the league. I don't particularly care for whom you root when trying to figure out which guy I think is deserving. I see the argument for both, but your absolutism is so off-putting I'm learning to love Woodson and his Packer Green all over again...and by all over again, I mean for the very first time, I since I kind of hate him considering he's on the Packers.

Yeah that's an apt comparison. Because Revis only did one remarkable thing once, just like Zenyatta. Woodson's hardly a "terror" in anything, sorry to break it to you. He's pretty good at a bunch of things. He's not great at anything. I've already said everything I can say. Come back to me when Revis falls down on a touchdown and gives up 15 yards of field position with 10 seconds left and the other team straddling field goal range. I already said Woodson had a good year. Not as good as Revis's.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Yeah that's an apt comparison. Because Revis only did one remarkable thing once, just like Zenyatta. Woodson's hardly a "terror" in anything, sorry to break it to you. He's pretty good at a bunch of things. He's not great at anything. I've already said everything I can say. Come back to me when Revis falls down on a touchdown and gives up 15 yards of field position with 10 seconds left and the other team straddling field goal range. I already said Woodson had a good year. Not as good as Revis's.

Well, we'll call it even.

You come back to me when you're done pretending that having a wide receiver run into you and knocking you down is the same as "falling down."

You can knock my analysis of it all you want. What you're unfortunately unable to say is that you're being fair in your analysis. "Falls down."

LOLZ. You're incredible. Aka, a Jets fan.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Well, we'll call it even.

You come back to me when you're done pretending that having a wide receiver run into you and knocking you down is the same as "falling down."

You can knock my analysis of it all you want. What you're unfortunately unable to say is that you're being fair in your analysis. "Falls down."

LOLZ. You're incredible. Aka, a Jets fan.

Dude, you're looking at the wrong play. I'm talking about the first Fitzgerald TD that made it 31-10. Woodson fell down.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Dude, you're looking at the wrong play. I'm talking about the first Fitzgerald TD that made it 31-10. Woodson fell down.

Ok, so you're willing to knock that one off Woodson's bill then, I'd assume?

Though sorry, I just looked at the other one too, realizing which one you're talking about -- like it's really that much better? Less pummeling, a bit less of the freight train-ing.....good call, that one proved your point. Total epiphany here.

You win.