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Old 09-23-2006, 05:50 PM
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This horse will be much better off with a diffrent jock. I watched this horse in the derby and he did the same thing. He runs off up the backside and McKee and he cant get him to relax. He gave him too many commands in a short amount of time. he finally gets the horse to slow down and then the race is just starting so he got to start askin him right after he was chokin him. I bet the horse is confused
Exactly. I had Ron keyed on top in the super with SC, the horse that showed, Costa and PD. Bah!
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Old 09-23-2006, 05:55 PM
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Sounds like we're talking about Funny Cide and Santos, lol. Just substitute the 2 for LR and McKee.

Strong Contender is a distance runner, beautifully bred to be so. I think he is improving at the right time and could factor in the BC Classic if he's nominated.
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Old 09-23-2006, 06:12 PM
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Do you really think he'll factor in the Classic? He is going to have to improve A LOT. I think there is a big difference between the top 3 or 4 contenders, and horses like Strong Contender. He was a non factor in the Haskell, so I'm not too high on him making any noise in this years Classic.
It's something to keep in mind. I think the 12F will be no problem, he is improving. I don't know what his limitations are yet.
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Old 09-23-2006, 06:15 PM
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sorry, i meant 10 f. today was 9f.
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Old 09-23-2006, 06:30 PM
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i guess point determined didn't like cajun cookin'
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Old 09-23-2006, 06:31 PM
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I love Lawyer Ron. He is a nice, gutsy horse that you can't help but root for. I agree with DaHoss in that I think Lawyer Ron is a very nice Grade II horse, but doesn't belong at the top. Neither one of the top two horses were slow today as the final time of the race was very nice, and Lawyer Ron ran under 47 seconds for the opening half mile. He was also expending a lot of energy, and was very rank. After watching the race, I think that LR might could have held off SC for the win had LR been able to settle. It would have been close though. I really don't think that LR is a mile and a quarter horse. I also don't think that is would be wise to send LR to the BCC this year. He would definitely be overmatched in that race.

SC is definitely improving. I think that Ward should definitely take the gamble and send this horse to the BC Classic. I loved the way be accelerated and galloped down the stretch today. Beautiful moving horse. It looks as if a mile and a quarter isn't going to be a problem for him...
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Old 09-23-2006, 06:31 PM
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This horse will be much better off with a diffrent jock. I watched this horse in the derby and he did the same thing. He runs off up the backside and McKee and he cant get him to relax. He gave him too many commands in a short amount of time. he finally gets the horse to slow down and then the race is just starting so he got to start askin him right after he was chokin him. I bet the horse is confused
just showered and was thinking in the shower that holthus needs to get a new rider for this guy. it's a shame. had he not fought with him, taking some of his energy, he might have had enough left at the end. no quitter in that one for sure. but that ride....yikes.
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Old 09-23-2006, 11:22 PM
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just showered and was thinking in the shower that holthus needs to get a new rider for this guy. it's a shame. had he not fought with him, taking some of his energy, he might have had enough left at the end. no quitter in that one for sure. but that ride....yikes.

Of all the things to be thinking about while in the shower you're thinking about Bob Holthus???

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Old 09-24-2006, 12:55 AM
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Of all the things to be thinking about while in the shower you're thinking about Bob Holthus???

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not bob holthus...hell, no telling what will cross your mind in a free moment....my brain runs constantly, it's annoying at times, like when i'm trying to sleep and i can't shut down. i can't just sit. if i'm in a car, but not driving, i have to have something to read, or write, or do. in the shower i think...it's freaky.
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Old 09-24-2006, 07:43 AM
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I don't think it was all McKee's fault, this is the second time that LR has run off like that, I don't know why he does it sometimes and sometimes not, he's kind of a strange horse. I think Rupert has the right idea any time you ask the horse he's go go go and no tractibility. He should have won that race yesterday, but he went too fast too early and maybe he's a little distance challenged to go that fast that early and win at a distance. Take nothing away from Strong Contender, he's a nice horse and he did what he should to win...I think both LR and SC ran very good races yesterday, there was a ton of lengths back to the other horses...When I saw that SC had that big Beyer, I thought that was inflated, but the Sheets gave him a -3 for that race, that's Bernardini-like. I am really curious to see what the #'s will be coming out of this race, because I think they will be respectable for both of them. Point Determined is not as good of a horse as LR or SC, but he's not that bad, he had to get hurt...I see no reason why both should not go on to the BC and they'll have plenty of time between races, I give both of them a big chance to run 2-3 in the BC...

Congrats Gander, I know you said you were loading up on SC, I made my first bet since the opening week of the Spa, keyed LR in a super, it was a small bet on my part, so no big loss. You said you were going big and when I saw SC getting to LR, I actually started cheering him on...

And to whoever said that LR should try turf, you might want to open up a Racing Form and look at his pp's....
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Old 09-24-2006, 08:53 AM
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it's not mckee's fault he was rank and headstrong....but i think the general consensus is that if he's going to run off like that, don't sap his energy by making him fight you. he may have had enough left to fight off strong contender if mckee had just faced facts...
maybe next time he needs to keep ron behind horses, don't let him see an opening early on. hell, i don't know! he's got the ability, he sure didn't want to let contender by there at the end.
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