U.S Intelligence a real oxymorn w/ this Nigerian

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Oh, yeah ... what do you think about this? And the relationship of some of these men to the underwear bomber?

Give me a break. You are just trying to steer the topic off of your statement. No one said that Bush and co had a perfect record. Truthfull what they should have done was get all the info they could out of the detainees and sent them home.


In caskets.

Despite what you and the rest of the bleeding hearts think, we still have lots of bad guys trying to do harm to us. And they dont care if you are sympathetic towards them or a hawk. The idea that Obama has had any impact in quelling the tide of hatred against us in the Middle East is foolish. It is too bad that some innocent people get pulled into the fray. But me and a whole lot of Americans would rather it be their innocent people and not ours.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Despite what you and the rest of the bleeding hearts think, we still have lots of bad guys trying to do harm to us. And they dont care if you are sympathetic towards them or a hawk. The idea that Obama has had any impact in quelling the tide of hatred against us in the Middle East is foolish. It is too bad that some innocent people get pulled into the fray. But me and a whole lot of Americans would rather it be their innocent people and not ours.

Strange you mischaracterize me as a "bleeding heart" when I've never posted anything but positive and complete support for our killing terrorists and aggressively pursing them overseas.

Obama is going after AQ aggressively, in places Bush didn't go, and with some good success. He absolutely deserves credit for both not being a "bleeding heart" in the least, and credit for his directing US efforts to other places in pursuit of AQ, with that success.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Strange you mischaracterize me as a "bleeding heart" when I've never posted anything but positive and complete support for our killing terrorists and aggressively pursing them overseas.

Obama is going after AQ aggressively, in places Bush didn't go, and with some good success. He absolutely deserves credit for both not being a "bleeding heart" in the least, and credit for his directing US efforts to other places in pursuit of AQ, with that success.

I am just wondering why a President who has dwindling favorable ratings and is taking a hit on a area where he was perceived as weak wouldn't be talking about all these successes? The WH has bragged about successes that hardly were and yet you seem to be the only person who knows about all this success against terrorism. Especially in light of the recent security failure.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I am just wondering why a President who has dwindling favorable ratings and is taking a hit on a area where he was perceived as weak wouldn't be talking about all these successes? The WH has bragged about successes that hardly were and yet you seem to be the only person who knows about all this success against terrorism. Especially in light of the recent security failure.

I wonder, too, why it's not highlighted. I think it's a huge mistake politically for the Dems not to talk that up. But I think it's obvious the August recess - health care debate - teabaggers anger was far better TV at the time.

Obama's popularity ratings went up 6-10 points (depending upon poll) when healthcare made it through the Senate, last I saw.

I guess I'm "the only person who knows" because I read newspapers and newsites other than Fox News? As you can see if you simply google those names, those incidents I posted (the AQ terrorists taken down) were all over multiple news sites, evening news, etc.

According to what I see - which is why I brought it up in the first place - the perception that Obama is weak in this area certainly doesn't match the reality so far in his administration.

As far as the recent security failure goes, as I've said, I would think there are plenty of inter- and intra- agency screwups to go around.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

I wonder, too, why it's not highlighted. I think it's a huge mistake politically for the Dems not to talk that up. But I think it's obvious the August recess - health care debate - teabaggers anger was far better TV at the time.

Obama's popularity ratings went up 6-10 points (depending upon poll) when healthcare made it through the Senate, last I saw.

I guess I'm "the only person who knows" because I read newspapers and newsites other than Fox News? As you can see if you simply google those names, those incidents I posted (the AQ terrorists taken down) were all over multiple news sites, evening news, etc.

According to what I see - which is why I brought it up in the first place - the perception that Obama is weak in this area certainly doesn't match the reality so far in his administration.

As far as the recent security failure goes, as I've said, I would think there are plenty of inter- and intra- agency screwups to go around.

Perhaps it isnt highlighted because it simply isnt true? That is what logical people might assume.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Perhaps it isnt highlighted because it simply isnt true? That is what logical people might assume.

Seriously - are you saying, all those press reports, in August, about specific, named AQ killed in Somalia, Pakistan, etc, and not just from our country - are a lie?

And that's what "logical" people might assume?



Google those names. Let's see what comes up in the general press. Post it here.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Seriously - are you saying, all those press reports, in August, about specific, named AQ killed in Somalia, Pakistan, etc, and not just from our country - are a lie?

And that's what "logical" people might assume?



Google those names. Let's see what comes up in the general press. Post it here.

No one said the news reports werent true. What isnt true is that Obama has done some bangup job against Al Queda or has made some giant breakthroughs that you are saying he has.

It is like posting a couple of boxscores and saying that is evidence of why one team is doing well or not.

It is all relative to the big picture and obviously the media doesnt believe that what they know constitutes some big achievement.

[dellinger63]

Riot FYI
a guy who was at a pay-cash only Dr.'s office today heard the poor Nigerian was just trying to get to Boston to see an Obama cougar w/free digs. And he brought fire in his pants as he heard global warming hasn't hit beantown yet.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Riot FYI
a guy who was at a pay-cash only Dr.'s office today heard the poor Nigerian was just trying to get to Boston to see an Obama cougar w/free digs. And he brought fire in his pants as he heard global warming hasn't hit beantown yet.

And to think, that in my misguided yet fun youth, I used to have to use 'outside influences' to obtain the same mindset you have now