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Old 01-01-2010, 09:11 PM
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European Security is good at airports, but if we are serious about flights coming into the US, we should have US Security checking all US Bound International flights. Would we let Amsterdam officials screen an O'Hare to Laguardia flight? Then why is it OK for them to screen a Detroit bound flight?

It would not be cheap and logistically very difficult, but if we want ownership of who and what is on these Intl US Bound flights, then we should do our own screening.

Now...this isn't meant as an endorsement of US TSA agents by any means...they are troublesome enough as it is, but it's about the principal.
How rightwing of you to question another country's security! We are only one small part of the world order now Bob and for us to suggest that foreign security isnt good enough for us Americans or that we insult their soverignity by checking our inbound flights on their soil is appaling! Dont let Obama find out about this stance or he will have to go to the UN and apologize for you next!
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Old 01-01-2010, 09:17 PM
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How rightwing of you to question another country's security! We are only one small part of the world order now Bob and for us to suggest that foreign security isnt good enough for us Americans or that we insult their soverignity by checking our inbound flights on their soil is appaling! Dont let Obama find out about this stance or he will have to go to the UN and apologize for you next!
I was just trolling for the blame it on Barack team to show..I kind of believe what I wrote, but also know it"s impossible to execute. You guys want to blame Obama for the debt, go for it, but Cheney is an idiot for what he said. **** happens unfortunately, no matter who is Prez
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Old 01-01-2010, 09:28 PM
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I was just trolling for the blame it on Barack team to show..I kind of believe what I wrote, but also know it"s impossible to execute. You guys want to blame Obama for the debt, go for it, but Cheney is an idiot for what he said. **** happens unfortunately, no matter who is Prez
I was only messing with you. Why does Cheney get under the lefties skin so bad?
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Old 01-01-2010, 09:36 PM
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I was only messing with you. Why does Cheney get under the lefties skin so bad?
He is part of the trifecta that I really believe would be better off dead or in prison..Rumsfeld, Cheney and Ashcroft. Bush was a moron, Limbaugh is brilliant, but these three were pure evil.
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Old 01-01-2010, 10:50 PM
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Old 01-01-2010, 10:54 PM
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Considering it's the Washingon POST, I give them credit for not blaming Obama, but Bush..which I'm not sure even I agree with
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Considering it's the Washingon POST, I give them credit for not blaming Obama, but Bush..which I'm not sure even I agree with

i didn't get anything out of the article that held either of them to blame. seems more a case of too many folks in the mix, but not many of them sharing info or connecting the dots.
i expect napolitano to get the lions share of the blame here, rightly or not. i remember when haig was shown the door for saying he was 'in charge here at the white house' right after reagan was shot. napolitano is taking a lot of heat for saying the system worked-which it obviously did not.
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Cheney should just shut his face at this point



Or maybe he just enjoys continually making an ass out of himself in public...
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Cheney speaks the truth, sometimes it hurts but it needed to be said. The Obama administrations whole approach is to treat all of these incidents as isolated loners, not connected to any wider conspiracy. they seem to not have a coherent strategy other than to downplay every event and then blame Bush.
this is what happens when you elect an inexperienced self-absorbed president in training wheels who appoints similar incompetent people to key positions.

they have now got a major problem on their hands that they've divulged all the info about the CIA deaths to the public. believe it or not the CIA likes to operate in a clandestine manner. another big win for al qaeda and a bigger recruiting tool than gitmo ever was.
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Old 01-02-2010, 04:27 PM
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Cheney speaks the truth, sometimes it hurts but it needed to be said. The Obama administrations whole approach is to treat all of these incidents as isolated loners, not connected to any wider conspiracy. they seem to not have a coherent strategy other than to downplay every event and then blame Bush..
What particular, "every events then blame Bush" are you talking about? "all these incidents" - please, tell the specific incidents you are referring to, show us where this administration came out that the people in question were loners? Or blamed Bush for them?

Because the killing and capture of terrorists I listed doesn't fall into the parameters of your assertions in the least. Neither does anything I've seen this administration do to date. So you'll have to be specific and point it out.

The Obama administration is doing exactly what was promised regarding changing the Bush strategy (was there one?) of pursuing terrorists, and doing it aggressively and with results. They are targeting specifically Al Quaeda - and doing what is needed: getting out of the quagmire of Iraq (why are we there again?), increasing pursuit of specific Al Quaeda where they are, in Afghanistan & Pakistan (using unmanned drones and manned missions), Somalia, and keeping an eye on Yemen.

He's already had better results than Bush has in the past five years. You, too, are free to show that my assertion is wrong with some facts.

BTW, Dick Cheney is a cold-blooded liar, a torturer, and showed no respect for our Constitution.
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Old 01-02-2010, 05:37 PM
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What particular, "every events then blame Bush" are you talking about? "all these incidents" - please, tell the specific incidents you are referring to, show us where this administration came out that the people in question were loners? Or blamed Bush for them?

Because the killing and capture of terrorists I listed doesn't fall into the parameters of your assertions in the least. Neither does anything I've seen this administration do to date. So you'll have to be specific and point it out.

The Obama administration is doing exactly what was promised regarding changing the Bush strategy (was there one?) of pursuing terrorists, and doing it aggressively and with results. They are targeting specifically Al Quaeda - and doing what is needed: getting out of the quagmire of Iraq (why are we there again?), increasing pursuit of specific Al Quaeda where they are, in Afghanistan & Pakistan (using unmanned drones and manned missions), Somalia, and keeping an eye on Yemen.

He's already had better results than Bush has in the past five years. You, too, are free to show that my assertion is wrong with some facts.

BTW, Dick Cheney is a cold-blooded liar, a torturer, and showed no respect for our Constitution.
Do you have some high level security clearance? If you don't your assertions are complete fabrications. Why we have to "prove" your made up stories are false is ridiclous. You should provide some real evidence that backs your claims, not just a few links to a couple of news stories about drones killing some guy in Pakistan. If your assertions were true than it should be easy to prove. I'm sure the WH would love to be bragging about all these victories in the War on terror yet they seem to be pretty quiet except defending themselves from the recent security screwups. You used to at least provide flawed or misleading data (or WH press releases) as evidence. now you just throw **** against the wall and dare us to disagree.
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How rightwing of you to question another country's security! We are only one small part of the world order now Bob and for us to suggest that foreign security isnt good enough for us Americans or that we insult their soverignity by checking our inbound flights on their soil is appaling! Dont let Obama find out about this stance or he will have to go to the UN and apologize for you next!
Until some other group consistently misbehaves against us, it would be terrific if only Moslems would be inconvenienced by invasive searches etc. Unfortunately, Islam is a Dog-Sht Religion. It is not a specific race of people.
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