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Old 12-22-2009, 02:11 PM
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who is going to play LF now ? all for a fomrer pitcher that stunk in ny
Why don't you wait one game like you did with Texieria before claiming the trade is a bust.
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Old 12-22-2009, 02:56 PM
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Only a Yankee fan would think this is a bad trade because of Cabrera. For some reason they think Melky Cabrera is really good. The bad part may be giving up your best graded pitching prospect, Vizciano. But even he is a long ways from the majors at 19. Vasquez gives them a solid guy to get them 200+ innings and keeps Hughes in the pen (or Joba if they wise up). For the next 3 years it should be a big positive for NY. After that, who knows.
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:00 PM
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Only a Yankee fan would think this is a bad trade because of Cabrera. For some reason they think Melky Cabrera is really good. The bad part may be giving up your best graded pitching prospect, Vizciano. But even he is a long ways from the majors at 19. Vasquez gives them a solid guy to get them 200+ innings and keeps Hughes in the pen (or Joba if they wise up). For the next 3 years it should be a big positive for NY. After that, who knows.

LF who plays chuck?
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:06 PM
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LF who plays chuck?
It is December. They could throw Nady there. Isnt he still signed? They could sign a FA. They could resign Damon. They could do a lot of things. Replacing Melky Cabrera isnt very hard because he isnt very good.
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It is December. They could throw Nady there. Isnt he still signed? They could sign a FA. They could resign Damon. They could do a lot of things. Replacing Melky Cabrera isnt very hard because he isnt very good.

vasquez stunk in his 1st tour , tell me why he will be good in the bronx now
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:09 PM
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vasquez stunk in his 1st tour , tell me why he will be good in the bronx now
He was an All Star in the first half. Granted he struggled in the 2nd half. I guess some people can't forgive him for getting called into a base loaded jam and being forced to throw a strike in a very tough situation. Get over it! He wasn't the reason they lost to the Red Sox in 2004. It's a good deal for the Yanks.
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Old 12-22-2009, 03:28 PM
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vasquez stunk in his 1st tour , tell me why he will be good in the bronx now
He had a rough second-half but supposedly was hurt that year. I'm a big Melky fan even though I realize he's not that good, but his value is nothing near Vasquez's. I think they'll try to re-sign Damon for a year and then go after Crawford next year.
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It is December. They could throw Nady there. Isnt he still signed? They could sign a FA. They could resign Damon. They could do a lot of things. Replacing Melky Cabrera isnt very hard because he isnt very good.
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Melky is named after a great candy bar though. The Milky Way is an art form among candy bars. All that gooey caramel underneath the delicious chocolate. Try one frozen but dont bite down on it, just savor the amazing combination of chocolate & caramel.
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Melky is named after a great candy bar though. The Milky Way is an art form among candy bars. All that gooey caramel underneath the delicious chocolate. Try one frozen but dont bite down on it, just savor the amazing combination of chocolate & caramel.
Dude ... it's a Snickers without the peanuts.
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Only a Yankee fan would think this is a bad trade because of Cabrera. For some reason they think Melky Cabrera is really good. The bad part may be giving up your best graded pitching prospect, Vizciano. But even he is a long ways from the majors at 19. Vasquez gives them a solid guy to get them 200+ innings and keeps Hughes in the pen (or Joba if they wise up). For the next 3 years it should be a big positive for NY. After that, who knows.
Actually Vazquez is a free agent at the end of next year, but if the Yanks sign him to an extention then its definitely a positive for the future.

What Yanks fans don't realize, that the Yanks made Cabrera available after they acquired Granderson. A sign that they will target. DeRosa, Holliday, Bay, Damon or Nady through free agency. Cubs inquired and the Yanks asked for Big Z.

This is a good deal for the Yanks because he can go 7 innings a game and rest the bullpen while limiting baserunners. He still only average 1.28 baserunners in his first stint. He'll be better this time around.
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Actually Vazquez is a free agent at the end of next year, but if the Yanks sign him to an extention then its definitely a positive for the future.

What Yanks fans don't realize, that the Yanks made Cabrera available after they acquired Granderson. A sign that they will target. DeRosa, Holliday, Bay, Damon or Nady through free agency. Cubs inquired and the Yanks asked for Big Z.

This is a good deal for the Yanks because he can go 7 innings a game and rest the bullpen while limiting baserunners. He still only average 1.28 baserunners in his first stint. He'll be better this time around.
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Actually Vazquez is a free agent at the end of next year, but if the Yanks sign him to an extention then its definitely a positive for the future.

What Yanks fans don't realize, that the Yanks made Cabrera available after they acquired Granderson. A sign that they will target. DeRosa, Holliday, Bay, Damon or Nady through free agency. Cubs inquired and the Yanks asked for Big Z.

This is a good deal for the Yanks because he can go 7 innings a game and rest the bullpen while limiting baserunners. He still only average 1.28 baserunners in his first stint. He'll be better this time around.

pitching in the bronx is not for everyone , he has already shown that it's not really for him
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Dodgers should 1st trade Broxton for a starting pitcher, and then sign Valverde to close games. They can't go into the season with Broxton as the closer. All the other players know he will choke in the post. There is not enough mystery involved to get them motivated to make the post.
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pitching in the bronx is not for everyone , he has already shown that it's not really for him

Wrong! He was an all-star as a Yankee. He failed in the 2nd half with many thinking it was injury, maybe just mechanics.

But at Yankee stadium that year. He had a 9-4 record with a 4.13 ERA. What's more impressive is that he only allowed 1.09 base runners per inning in front of New Yorkers. 2004 was 6 years ago. He's much better mentally now than then.
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Old 12-23-2009, 04:22 AM
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205 million?...Damn hogs.
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