Mandatory Healthcare?

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

From what I understand as the bill stands ALL will be forced to buy health insurance under a private program and that I can agree with.

Couple obvious questions though?

Suppose a person currently uninsured BECAUSE premiums are too high due to a pre-existing condition say leukemia is now forced to purchase insurance. Are we going to jail them and then provide them care in the Fed big house or just fine the crap out of them? Will illegals, like auntie Obama be forced to buy insurance and how will anyone keep track of them when supposedly we can't do it now? How about the unemployed, or families living paycheck to paycheck? Will they be forced to reduce say their food intake or go w/o electricity, water etc.?

Or like always will the workingman and healthy be forced to subsidize above situations in the form of higher premiums?

Can't wait for someone to get to Leavenworth and be asked, "What are you in for?" and answer "not having health insurance. What time is dinner and can you call the Dr. my belly hurts"

and those poor Dr.'s Riot speaks of who don't take insurance. Will they be forced into a new career? LMAO

Take a good look at MA. if you think it's such a good thing. We have 6 hospitals bringing lawsuits against the state for not paying the promised medicare reimbursements. They may go bankrupt. There are still long waits in the emergency rooms and at the doctor's offices. Insurance premiums have gone up 42 percent. I chose to get catastrophic only insurance when this mandatory insurance went through. It was not good enough so I would still have to pay the fines. So now I pay the fines (alot cheaper than the monthly insurance) and continue to pay cash when I need to see a doctor (which is what I did before 2006).

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Rileyoriley

Take a good look at MA. if you think it's such a good thing. We have 6 hospitals bringing lawsuits against the state for not paying the promised medicare reimbursements. They may go bankrupt. There are still long waits in the emergency rooms and at the doctor's offices. Insurance premiums have gone up 42 percent. I chose to get catastrophic only insurance when this mandatory insurance went through. It was not good enough so I would still have to pay the fines. So now I pay the fines (alot cheaper than the monthly insurance) and continue to pay cash when I need to see a doctor (which is what I did before 2006).

Why should we believe your personal story when we can google like Riot? STOP MAKING SENSE!!!

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Why should we believe your personal story when we can google like Riot? STOP MAKING SENSE!!!

Forgive me. I forgot my place.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Why should we believe your personal story when we can google like Riot? STOP MAKING SENSE!!!

If you googled a bit, you might learn the earth is no longer considered flat

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Rileyoriley

Take a good look at MA. if you think it's such a good thing. We have 6 hospitals bringing lawsuits against the state for not paying the promised medicare reimbursements. They may go bankrupt. There are still long waits in the emergency rooms and at the doctor's offices. Insurance premiums have gone up 42 percent. I chose to get catastrophic only insurance when this mandatory insurance went through. It was not good enough so I would still have to pay the fines. So now I pay the fines (alot cheaper than the monthly insurance) and continue to pay cash when I need to see a doctor (which is what I did before 2006).

Deb..I will come visit you in jail should that happen

but not in the winter time....

[SOREHOOF]

Has the real bill even reached the Senate floor yet? I hope they make them read every word of this stinky thing on the floor before another vote.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Has the real bill even reached the Senate floor yet? I hope they make them read every word of this stinky thing on the floor before another vote.

dont bet on it...they have to get ready for Valentine's Day!

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Deb..I will come visit you in jail should that happen

but not in the winter time....

Jail is my retirement plan. Free healthcare, housing, meals, lawyers. Hell I can even attend college!

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Rileyoriley

Jail is my retirement plan. Free healthcare, housing, meals, lawyers. Hell I can even attend college!

Clyde would be proud of you

[Danzig]

don't worry, the smart will take care of the dumb, unwashed masses who ought to know better than to formulate an ignorant opinion.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

obamas new job plan..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzY3QV6MkGs

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

don't worry, the smart will take care of the dumb, unwashed masses who ought to know better than to formulate an ignorant opinion.

Don't you think there is a difference between saying, "Healthcare reform is terrible, because of ... increased costs, etc."; and saying that the American people should actually pray that something happens to a Democratic Senator so they can't make the 1am vote on the bill? (as Sen. Tom Coburn from Oklahoma had the nerve to say on the Senate floor yesterday).

Big difference in "opinion" between those two in my eyes, and yeah, I think the personal attack is pretty much the sign of the ignorant.

Of course, there is a debate question there: the Senator's presumption that God is on his side

[Honu]

I just want to know how an almost bankrupt government that is most likely going to have to ask for money from bankrupt banks is going to pay for the "right for all Americans" to have health insurance. Tell me how this is going to work out.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

Don't you think there is a difference between saying, "Healthcare reform is terrible, because of ... increased costs, etc."; and saying that the American people should actually pray that something happens to a Democratic Senator so they can't make the 1am vote on the bill? (as Sen. Tom Coburn from Oklahoma had the nerve to say on the Senate floor yesterday).

Big difference in "opinion" between those two in my eyes, and yeah, I think the personal attack is pretty much the sign of the ignorant.
Of course, there is a debate question there: the Senator's presumption that God is on his side

sure, no one should ask for prayers that something happens.

as for the bolded, making generalized statements about having higher education, while saying others obviously aren't educated enough to think things thru (since they have a difference of opinion from you) in my opinion is a personal attack. it's calling people stupid without actually using that word.