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Old 12-06-2009, 01:14 AM
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How big is Bear's Hard Ten? http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...display-stakes He looks big to me, and I figured with his sire it wasn't a stretch to think he really was. Sometimes it's for me hard to gauge, I need another pair of eyes.
I think he's got some size to him but you can't always tell on the videos. I've been fooled before.
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Old 12-09-2009, 09:48 PM
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There is a 3 year old I really like named Hunch. He's actually entered on Friday at Hollywood Park. I think they're just going to give him the race as a prep for the Malibu. He hasn't run in 6 months. He's eligible to run nwx1 and there is a nwx1 on the main track on Sunday at 6 1/2 furlongs. Instead of running him in there, they're running him over his conditions in a nwx2 on Friday on the grass at 6 furlongs. The horse has never run on the grass. The race on Sunday is 13 days before the Malibu. I think they're running him on Friday instead for two reasons. First, he will have an extra 2 days (15 instead of 13) before the Malibu. Second, they don't want him to run too hard so they don't want to run him on his preferred surface. Those are the only possible two reasons why they would want to run him in a nwx2 on the grass instead of a nwx1 on a track that he loves.

I guess they could be thinking that the race on Friday may come off the grass, but why would they take the gamble? Once in a while in California, the racing secretary will allow a guy to enter for "main track only" even though it's not denoted in the DRF in California. I guess that is a possibility. But that wouldn't make much sense because entires for Sunday are tomorrow. Tomorrow when they draw entires for Sunday, they won't even know if the race on Friday is coming off the grass or not.

One more possibility is that they may feel they absolutely have to give him a prep race before the Malibu, and they didn't want to take a chance of Sunday's race not filling.

Anyway, assuming they just give him the race on Friday, he will probably be 15-1 in the Malibu. That would be the time to bet him. If he runs hard and wins the allowance race, I wouldn't like him coming back in two weeks.

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Old 12-11-2009, 06:46 PM
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There is a 3 year old I really like named Hunch. He's actually entered on Friday at Hollywood Park. I think they're just going to give him the race as a prep for the Malibu. He hasn't run in 6 months. He's eligible to run nwx1 and there is a nwx1 on the main track on Sunday at 6 1/2 furlongs. Instead of running him in there, they're running him over his conditions in a nwx2 on Friday on the grass at 6 furlongs. The horse has never run on the grass. The race on Sunday is 13 days before the Malibu. I think they're running him on Friday instead for two reasons. First, he will have an extra 2 days (15 instead of 13) before the Malibu. Second, they don't want him to run too hard so they don't want to run him on his preferred surface. Those are the only possible two reasons why they would want to run him in a nwx2 on the grass instead of a nwx1 on a track that he loves.

I guess they could be thinking that the race on Friday may come off the grass, but why would they take the gamble? Once in a while in California, the racing secretary will allow a guy to enter for "main track only" even though it's not denoted in the DRF in California. I guess that is a possibility. But that wouldn't make much sense because entires for Sunday are tomorrow. Tomorrow when they draw entires for Sunday, they won't even know if the race on Friday is coming off the grass or not.

One more possibility is that they may feel they absolutely have to give him a prep race before the Malibu, and they didn't want to take a chance of Sunday's race not filling.

Anyway, assuming they just give him the race on Friday, he will probably be 15-1 in the Malibu. That would be the time to bet him. If he runs hard and wins the allowance race, I wouldn't like him coming back in two weeks.
The race today ended up coming off the grass and it ended up being a 4 horse field. Hunch was 8-5, which isn't a bad price on the best horse in a 4 horse field. I couldn't make a big bet though because I did find out that they were in fact planning on running in the Malibu in 15 days. So I knew that they didn't want him to run too hard today. He ended up winning pretty easily. He was geared down the final 70 yards or so. He didn't run his hardest but he still ran harder than I would have liked for a horse that is going to run back in 15 days. I'm on the fence about him in the Malibu.

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Old 12-15-2009, 05:32 PM
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On Monday, Neil Howard unleashed a Smart Strike 2yo named Bravo Whiskey (race 7 at the Fair Grounds), who romped going 6f on the slop coming from well off the pace.
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Old 12-15-2009, 06:01 PM
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The race today ended up coming off the grass and it ended up being a 4 horse field. Hunch was 8-5, which isn't a bad price on the best horse in a 4 horse field. I couldn't make a big bet though because I did find out that they were in fact planning on running in the Malibu in 15 days. So I knew that they didn't want him to run too hard today. He ended up winning pretty easily. He was geared down the final 70 yards or so. He didn't run his hardest but he still ran harder than I would have liked for a horse that is going to run back in 15 days. I'm on the fence about him in the Malibu.
So far mentioned for the Malibu:

Misremembered
Papa Clem
Smart Bid
Kinsella
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I would guess M One Rifle, Chocolate Candy, Massone, Quindici Man, Acclimation, Viscount and Square Eddie might have it on the radar.
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Old 12-15-2009, 06:15 PM
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So far mentioned for the Malibu:

Misremembered
Papa Clem
Smart Bid
Kinsella
Join In The Dance

I would guess M One Rifle, Chocolate Candy, Massone, Quindici Man, Acclimation, Viscount and Square Eddie might have it on the radar.

What happened to this thread? Its supposed to be good 2 yr olds.
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Old 12-15-2009, 08:03 PM
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What happened to this thread? Its supposed to be good 2 yr olds.
Weren't you answering questions about DRF Formulator on this very page?

But hey, my bad.

I should have waited 2 weeks, then everyone else would be in the same boat.
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Old 12-16-2009, 02:21 AM
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So far mentioned for the Malibu:

Misremembered
Papa Clem
Smart Bid
Kinsella
Join In The Dance

I would guess M One Rifle, Chocolate Candy, Massone, Quindici Man, Acclimation, Viscount and Square Eddie might have it on the radar.
After the Damascus, I thought Smart Bid would be the horse to beat in the Malibu. But I kept checking the work tab and he didn't have any works so I assumed he had gotten hurt. Now I see that he just started working again, so I assume he will run in the Malibu.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Coronet of a Baron in there. I think that Monolingual is even a possibility. It will be interesting to see if Hunch ends up running. It would be a fairly tall order to come back in 15 days. But I do know that the connections were pointing him for the race. It will probably just depend how he came out of the allowance race the other day.
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Old 12-16-2009, 04:29 AM
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After the Damascus, I thought Smart Bid would be the horse to beat in the Malibu. But I kept checking the work tab and he didn't have any works so I assumed he had gotten hurt. Now I see that he just started working again, so I assume he will run in the Malibu.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Coronet of a Baron in there. I think that Monolingual is even a possibility. It will be interesting to see if Hunch ends up running. It would be a fairly tall order to come back in 15 days. But I do know that the connections were pointing him for the race. It will probably just depend how he came out of the allowance race the other day.
It's not unlike Motion at all to wait 4 weeks to work a horse after a big race.
He seems to prefer to train them instead of racing them.
Especially since he just ran big at SA and the G1 Malibu is at SA.
If I was Smart Bid's trainer I would be tempted to take down one of the 4 horse fields at HWP to fill the time gap.
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Old 12-16-2009, 04:47 AM
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It's not unlike Motion at all to wait 4 weeks to work a horse after a big race.
He seems to prefer to train them instead of racing them.
Especially since he just ran big at SA and the G1 Malibu is at SA.
If I was Smart Bid's trainer I would be tempted to take down one of the 4 horse fields at HWP to fill the time gap.
In this case, you wouldn't think that Smart Bid would have needed a break after that race. He hadn't run since April. The Damascus was his first race in over 7 months. It doesn't surprise me that Motion would have skipped Hollywood. There weren't really any great races for him over there. But it does surprise me that he didn't work the horse for 4 1/2 weeks after the Damascus. As I said, that was his first race in 7 months. If the horse came out of the race in good shape, wouldn't that be unusual for Motion to wait that long for a work considering that the horse was so fresh going into the Damascus?
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