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Old 11-30-2009, 10:14 AM
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I've often thought that Fair Grounds has been shortchanged by the Graded Stakes Committee. In particular, the FG Oaks should be a Grade 1.
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Old 11-30-2009, 10:31 AM
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let's face it the grading sysem is screwed up and the influx of more big slots money races at non traditional venues will continue to skew the system even further. The Miesque being a grade 3 and the BC juvy filly turf being ungraded is stupid. I know about the criteria but some of that smae criteria leads the Arky Derby not to be a grade 1 also. According to the graded stakes committee Tapitsfly is not a graded winner but Jailot is. Obvious prep races like the Derby preps are the same grade as the target is. It is just tiresome to think about.
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Old 11-30-2009, 11:45 AM
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let's face it the grading sysem is screwed up and the influx of more big slots money races at non traditional venues will continue to skew the system even further. The Miesque being a grade 3 and the BC juvy filly turf being ungraded is stupid. I know about the criteria but some of that smae criteria leads the Arky Derby not to be a grade 1 also. According to the graded stakes committee Tapitsfly is not a graded winner but Jailot is. Obvious prep races like the Derby preps are the same grade as the target is. It is just tiresome to think about.
Half these Graded races are frauds. TOO MANY GRADED STAKES PERIOD
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Old 11-30-2009, 12:47 PM
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Half these Graded races are frauds. TOO MANY GRADED STAKES PERIOD
Yeah..you know you would run in a Grade 7 at Penn if they had it
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Old 11-30-2009, 01:12 PM
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Yeah..you know you would run in a Grade 7 at Penn if they had it
took my son Saturday..Its a casino with a track. The back stretch is ok my son loved feeding the horse. 63 BSF dont quality for much although the Remsen was a 82..lol
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Old 11-30-2009, 01:12 PM
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Half these Graded races are frauds. TOO MANY GRADED STAKES PERIOD
I agree. The issue shouldn't be whether the Clark deserves to be a Grade I (it probably doesn't - it's really been helped the past two years by the Breeders' Cup being out west), but rather how many stakes races that are currently given Grade I status don't deserve that grade.
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:39 PM
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Half these Graded races are frauds. TOO MANY GRADED STAKES PERIOD
You are right
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Old 11-30-2009, 04:40 PM
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It sure does seem like there are too many Graded events when roughly 75% of these races the average field is 7.

The system should reflect the connections of high quality horses NOT being given the luxury of "picking" and "choosing" garden spots. They should feel like they are somewhat limited to run in the bigger races, not having the choices at their leisure.

I think racing would benefit in this event...
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