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Old 11-25-2009, 03:31 PM
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I read through them. They were pretty clear.
Well if one trainer reps that "the vast majority" are retired after a guy just knocked the friggin cover off the ball this fall..It seems a bit suspect.. How about the guy has been solid gold but he went thru quite a few to find a few diamonds? Maybe that is what you were thinking but failed to acknowledge he kicked butt with a bunch of VERY moderately priced yearlings.
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Old 11-25-2009, 03:34 PM
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Well if one trainer reps that "the vast majority" are retired after a guy just knocked the friggin cover off the ball this fall..It seems a bit suspect.. How about the guy has been solid gold but he went thru quite a few to find a few diamonds? Maybe that is what you were thinking but failed to acknowledge he kicked butt with a bunch of VERY moderately priced yearlings.
I dont seem to remember saying ANYTHING about McPeek except that I didnt believe his success at Keeneland was with a bunch of 50k types. This is just another example of saying i said something that I never even implied.

Did you look at the list on the link? It is a list of stakes winners, the vast majority of them havent raced in some time. How that list has anything to do with the last meet at Keeneland i am unsure of.
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Old 11-25-2009, 04:08 PM
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I am quite sure you watched the Keeneland meet. I am quite sure you watched McPeek win with everything. I didn't need to look at a list to tell me what went on three weeks ago neither did you. So your post is what a comment on the list?

IF? you read the thread I was simply posting that McPeek had a big meet.. Gales commented that he was on vacation and it was his assistants doing the work(good for McPeek).. Then Scavs chimes in on McPeeks cut on partnership(jealous) then you suggest incorrectly for a change about McPeeks stock purchase prices. I didnt need a list all I needed to do was read the friggin form daily and watch the meet. Sightseek posted the list for whatever friggin reason but clearly he was takin back by your lack of insight on McPeeks success and IMO shouldnt have dragged your business into it. Your business is your business but whatever you have a lot to say so I guess you have to be willing since your business is somewhat public to deal with the critisms(your a big boy you handle yourself fine). ANYHOO who gives a dam about the list the conversation was about McPeek, his work habits (gales) his Chop (Scavs) and his success (FMO).. the assertion that McPeek stock is retired suggests what? He burned them out ? The drugs killed them? The stock was crap? Oh you we just clarifing that the list didnt accurately represent that McPeek had just crushed Keeneland of course we should have guessed.
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Old 11-25-2009, 06:16 PM
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I am quite sure you watched the Keeneland meet. I am quite sure you watched McPeek win with everything. I didn't need to look at a list to tell me what went on three weeks ago neither did you. So your post is what a comment on the list?

IF? you read the thread I was simply posting that McPeek had a big meet.. Gales commented that he was on vacation and it was his assistants doing the work(good for McPeek).. Then Scavs chimes in on McPeeks cut on partnership(jealous) then you suggest incorrectly for a change about McPeeks stock purchase prices. I didnt need a list all I needed to do was read the friggin form daily and watch the meet. Sightseek posted the list for whatever friggin reason but clearly he was takin back by your lack of insight on McPeeks success and IMO shouldnt have dragged your business into it. Your business is your business but whatever you have a lot to say so I guess you have to be willing since your business is somewhat public to deal with the critisms(your a big boy you handle yourself fine). ANYHOO who gives a dam about the list the conversation was about McPeek, his work habits (gales) his Chop (Scavs) and his success (FMO).. the assertion that McPeek stock is retired suggests what? He burned them out ? The drugs killed them? The stock was crap? Oh you we just clarifing that the list didnt accurately represent that McPeek had just crushed Keeneland of course we should have guessed.
Let me repeat myself so this is clear. I never said anything about Ken McPeek other than suggest that his horses at the recent Keeneland meet were better than 50k types. You were the one who brought the guy up. Sightseek was the one who had her little temper tantrum after I pointed out her list wasn't relevant (those are horses from his entire training career, not the last meet at Keeneland). If I want to insult or knock Ken McPeek I will do so to him directly. I have no such desire to do so other than to point out his horses may be a little more expensive than you are giving them credit for. He is having a great year and I have nothing bad to say about him here. Nor have I. Since you and sightseek havent backed up your assertion with any tangible evidence I maintain my stance. If you or her or someone else were to provide evidence to the contrary I would say that I was wrong. Get drugs to look it up. Otherwise you are simply making implications about me that simply are not true.
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Old 11-25-2009, 06:19 PM
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Let me repeat myself so this is clear. I never said anything about Ken McPeek other than suggest that his horses at the recent Keeneland meet were better than 50k types. You were the one who brought the guy up. Sightseek was the one who had her little temper tantrum after I pointed out her list wasn't relevant (those are horses from his entire training career, not the last meet at Keeneland). If I want to insult or knock Ken McPeek I will do so to him directly. I have no such desire to do so other than to point out his horses may be a little more expensive than you are giving them credit for. He is having a great year and I have nothing bad to say about him here. Nor have I. Since you and sightseek havent backed up your assertion with any tangible evidence I maintain my stance. If you or her or someone else were to provide evidence to the contrary I would say that I was wrong. Get drugs to look it up. Otherwise you are simply making implications about me that simply are not true.

chuck do you get as much vacation time as kenny?
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Old 11-25-2009, 06:40 PM
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chuck do you get as much vacation time as kenny?
Why is what he does with his free time anybody's business including his owners? He is not a public servant. He isn't paid by taxpayer dollars. How he decides to run his business or spend his time is his decision.

Saturday is the 2nd 2yo day at CD. McPeek has 7 horses in that were sold at public auction. They average $101k. Not that means anything but it is interesting. And no there were no mega prices that skewed the numbers. A high of 180k and a low of 50k.
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Old 11-25-2009, 06:43 PM
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Why is what he does with his free time anybody's business including his owners? He is not a public servant. He isn't paid by taxpayer dollars. How he decides to run his business or spend his time is his decision.

Saturday is the 2nd 2yo day at CD. McPeek has 7 horses in that were sold at public auction. They average $101k. Not that means anything but it is interesting. And no there were no mega prices that skewed the numbers. A high of 180k and a low of 50k.
Now your making my point...he stays in the 50 to 100 range
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Old 11-25-2009, 06:45 PM
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Why is what he does with his free time anybody's business including his owners? He is not a public servant. He isn't paid by taxpayer dollars. How he decides to run his business or spend his time is his decision.

Saturday is the 2nd 2yo day at CD. McPeek has 7 horses in that were sold at public auction. They average $101k. Not that means anything but it is interesting. And no there were no mega prices that skewed the numbers. A high of 180k and a low of 50k.
I wouldnt care if my trainer lived at Atlantis as long as he won..
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Old 11-25-2009, 06:49 PM
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Why is what he does with his free time anybody's business including his owners? He is not a public servant. He isn't paid by taxpayer dollars. How he decides to run his business or spend his time is his decision.

Saturday is the 2nd 2yo day at CD. McPeek has 7 horses in that were sold at public auction. They average $101k. Not that means anything but it is interesting. And no there were no mega prices that skewed the numbers. A high of 180k and a low of 50k.

owners can vote with their feet and change if they feel that their investment would be better suited in someone else's barn....after all it's their $$$

so while kenny does not need to punch the clock , some owners are more aware than others about what is and isn't going on
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Old 11-25-2009, 06:41 PM
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chuck do you get as much vacation time as kenny?
Isn't Chuck retired?
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Old 11-25-2009, 06:39 PM
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Let me repeat myself so this is clear. I never said anything about Ken McPeek other than suggest that his horses at the recent Keeneland meet were better than 50k types. You were the one who brought the guy up. Sightseek was the one who had her little temper tantrum after I pointed out her list wasn't relevant (those are horses from his entire training career, not the last meet at Keeneland). If I want to insult or knock Ken McPeek I will do so to him directly. I have no such desire to do so other than to point out his horses may be a little more expensive than you are giving them credit for. He is having a great year and I have nothing bad to say about him here. Nor have I. Since you and sightseek havent backed up your assertion with any tangible evidence I maintain my stance. If you or her or someone else were to provide evidence to the contrary I would say that I was wrong. Get drugs to look it up. Otherwise you are simply making implications about me that simply are not true.
Its a shame you require the Rainman of Racing to prove what you should have witnessed and admired weeks ago. Not a issue, once the Rainman comes back from subway(he had a 15% off coupon) he will rep all the purchase prices of McPeeks special Keeneland meet. Anything else we all can do as a community to enlighten you..lol

A simple "so that is how you do it" will suffice..fair enough?
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Old 11-25-2009, 06:41 PM
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Its a shame you require the Rainman of Racing to prove what you should have witnessed and admired weeks ago. Not a issue, once the Rainman comes back from subway(he had a 15% off coupon) he will rep all the purchase prices of McPeeks special Keeneland meet. Anything else we all can do as a community to enlighten you..lol

A simple "so that is how you do it" will suffice..fair enough?
Is an overdose even possible anymore?
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Old 11-25-2009, 06:44 PM
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Is an overdose even possible anymore?
only from allday
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Old 11-25-2009, 07:21 PM
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Let me repeat myself so this is clear. I never said anything about Ken McPeek other than suggest that his horses at the recent Keeneland meet were better than 50k types. You were the one who brought the guy up. Sightseek was the one who had her little temper tantrum after I pointed out her list wasn't relevant (those are horses from his entire training career, not the last meet at Keeneland). If I want to insult or knock Ken McPeek I will do so to him directly. I have no such desire to do so other than to point out his horses may be a little more expensive than you are giving them credit for. He is having a great year and I have nothing bad to say about him here. Nor have I. Since you and sightseek havent backed up your assertion with any tangible evidence I maintain my stance. If you or her or someone else were to provide evidence to the contrary I would say that I was wrong. Get drugs to look it up. Otherwise you are simply making implications about me that simply are not true.
Actually in the second link I provided you could have found prices of current runners in the pps and the link you were concentrating did have a few current runners as well, so I thought between the two...

10/29 - Jo Bananas 7k
10/31 - My Baby Baby 50K
10/9 - Orchestrator 75K
10/28 - Orchestrator 75K
10/29 - Moontown (homebred)
10/9 - Moontown (homebred)
10/28 - Petecarol 70K
10/30 - Smarten Destiny RNA 70K
10/31 - Positive Split 42K
10/24 - Striking Dancer 110K
10/21 - Involved ?
10/21 - Sr. Henry ?
10/17 - Connie and Michael 80K
10/15 - House of Grace 100K
10/15 - Emerald Crescent ?
10/14 - Fist of Rage 55K
10/10 - Noble's Promise 10K
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Old 11-25-2009, 07:23 PM
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Actually in the second link I provided you could have found prices of current runners in the pps and the one you were concentrating did have a few current runners as well, so I thought between the two the evidence was there...

10/29 - Jo Bananas 7k
10/31 - My Baby Baby 50K
10/9 - Orchestrator 75K
10/28 - Orchestrator 75K
10/29 - Moontown (homebred)
10/9 - Moontown (homebred)
10/28 - Petecarol 70K
10/30 - Smarten Destiny RNA 70K
10/31 - Positive Split 42K
10/24 - Striking Dancer 110K
10/21 - Involved ?
10/21 - Sr. Henry ?
10/17 - Connie and Michael 80K
10/15 - House of Grace 100K
10/15 - Emerald Crescent ?
10/14 - Fist of Rage 55K
10/10 - Noble's Promise 10K

What is DrugS going to do now? OMG Chucky dropped the ball........................................AGAIN
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Old 11-25-2009, 07:25 PM
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What is DrugS going to do now? OMG Chucky dropped the ball........................................AGAIN
He can fill in the blanks!
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Old 11-25-2009, 10:01 PM
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Actually in the second link I provided you could have found prices of current runners in the pps and the link you were concentrating did have a few current runners as well, so I thought between the two...

10/29 - Jo Bananas 7k
10/31 - My Baby Baby 50K
10/9 - Orchestrator 75K
10/28 - Orchestrator 75K
10/29 - Moontown (homebred)
10/9 - Moontown (homebred)
10/28 - Petecarol 70K
10/30 - Smarten Destiny RNA 70K
10/31 - Positive Split 42K
10/24 - Striking Dancer 110K
10/21 - Involved ?
10/21 - Sr. Henry ?
10/17 - Connie and Michael 80K
10/15 - House of Grace 100K
10/15 - Emerald Crescent ?
10/14 - Fist of Rage 55K
10/10 - Noble's Promise 10K
He made 60 something starts, probably 50 horses.
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Old 11-26-2009, 09:53 AM
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He made 60 something starts, probably 50 horses.
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