Who Is Horse Of The Year?

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

It's similar to Tiger Woods winning Player of the Year this year... he never won a major, and didn't even win the Tour Championship, but his season as a whole was best. The key word is "year."

I think its another indictment of racing that you have one of the all time greatest fillies, who was undefeated in two racing seasons, competing at the highest levels in her division, and in this years case out of her division, win twice on "racings championship days" but somehow she is not deserving of being considered the best horse racing in either year, to horses who lost or did not show up on the definitive day of racing where the best field is assembled.

Horse racing = college football? Just saying.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I think its another indictment of racing that you have one of the all time greatest fillies, who was undefeated in two racing seasons, competing at the highest levels in her division, and in this years case out of her division, win twice on "racings championship days" but somehow she is not deserving of being considered the best horse racing in either year, to horses who lost or did not show up on the definitive day of racing where the best field is assembled.

Horse racing = college football? Just saying.

what zenyatta did last year is immaterial. as for competing 'at the highest levels of her division'....i think that's pushing it.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Danzig

what zenyatta did last year is immaterial. as for competing 'at the highest levels of her division'....i think that's pushing it.

who were the better older fillies that she has not beaten over two years? This ought to be good.

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

who were the better older fillies that she has not beaten over two years? This ought to be good.

Icon Project for one.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Icon Project for one.

The Nashoba's Key tragedy cost us a chance to see her match up with Zen.

I know I was in the minority at the time when I posted that I thought Zenyatta was likely the better of the two.

I think Zenyatta might have found beating horses like Informed Decision and Ventura a huge challenge at 8.5fs .. especially in those slow paced races.

If there was no filly and mare sprint added to the BC menu .. it's possible she could have faced both at 8.5f in the Lady's Secret .. though Ventura probably would have run in the Mile against the boys and not prepped in the Lady's Secret.

Hard to know what Informed Decision might have done without a filly and mare sprint. Probably sprinted against the males at 6fs ... but looking at her pedigree ... I think the Mile on turf or the Distaff wouldn't have been fully out of the question.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

who were the better older fillies that she has not beaten over two years? This ought to be good.

again, i was referring to this year. last year means nothing regarding the question in the title of this thread. the bcc field was the only decent field she was in the mix with all year.

[Danzig]

just saw that the new york times is offering voting in their poll with a point/counterpoint argument. a nice piece for racing in there for a change!

oh, and rachel is the overwhelming fave with respondents.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Danzig

just saw that the new york times is offering voting in their poll with a point/counterpoint argument. a nice piece for racing in there for a change!

oh, and rachel is the overwhelming fave with respondents.

It would be interesting if they did the poll like espn and showed how the voting is in different parts of the country.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Danzig

just saw that the new york times is offering voting in their poll with a point/counterpoint argument. a nice piece for racing in there for a change!

oh, and rachel is the overwhelming fave with respondents.

Thats like asking people in Ohio who they favor, OSU or Michigan...

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by Danzig

just saw that the new york times is offering voting in their poll with a point/counterpoint argument. a nice piece for racing in there for a change!

oh, and rachel is the overwhelming fave with respondents.

East Coast bias, even if they know who the horses are.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

East Coast bias, even if they know who the horses are.

i disagree. people keep lumping rachel into the east coast, conveniently forgetting races at oaklawn, fairgrounds and churchill downs.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Danzig

again, i was referring to this year. last year means nothing regarding the question in the title of this thread. the bcc field was the only decent field she was in the mix with all year.

You do realize she trashed, and I mean trashed, the filly who is going to be second in older mare voting, three separate times?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

You do realize she trashed, and I mean trashed, the filly who is going to be second in older mare voting, three separate times?

i assume you mean life is sweet? another horse who had a good bc so suddenly is a top horse for the year....i guess four wins is all it takes, just discount the losses. makes you wonder why any of them run anytime other than late fall.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i assume you mean life is sweet? .i guess four wins is all it takes, just discount the losses.

who did she lose to? Cmon, this is basic handicapping 101

Rail Trip, who is probably as talented a horse in the country

and Zenyatta, as Steve Crist says in his Sunday column "one of the great female horses of all time".