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Old 10-19-2009, 09:13 PM
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Old 10-19-2009, 09:34 PM
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At least we'll all have something to do on Tuesday's....
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Old 10-19-2009, 09:36 PM
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Maybe Bigs can confirm it but I heard Tampa is ditching Tuesdays and going to a Wed-Sun schedule for the bulk of the meet.

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Old 10-19-2009, 09:38 PM
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Maybe Bigs can confirm it but I heard Tampa is ditching Tuesdays and going to a Wed-Sun schedule for the bulk of the meet.

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The whole damn meet. It is on their website.

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Old 10-19-2009, 09:42 PM
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Ditching Tuesdays is fine by me. OTB here is no longer open on Mon or Tues
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Old 10-19-2009, 09:53 PM
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Ditching Tuesdays is fine by me. OTB here is no longer open on Mon or Tues
The economy?
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Old 10-20-2009, 05:52 AM
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The economy?
Essentially, yes. They have taken a few cost cutting measures the past couple years, this being one of them. They just weren't doing enough business on those 2 days to justify being open. They have this sports bar inside there that used to be open Thur-Sun where you could watch other sports in conjunction with the simulcast feeds, but now the only time they open it up is on Thursday nights when they have poker night (free games). I think they also open it up on triple crown and breeders cup days as well.
The OTB used to be divided into 2 halves, seperated by glass, for smoking and non-smoking. Both sides were always open and were staffed with a couple tellers. This summer, they decided to make the whole building non-smoking. By doing that, it has enabled them to completely shut down one side of the building, except for on Saturdays, so they don't have as many employees to pay. Truth be told, I'm surprised its still open. I have been here 3 years now and in those 3 years, I have maybe met between 5-10 people that actually understand horse racing and know how to read a form. The great majority stand sit there with a pencil and paper just playing numbers.
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:00 PM
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Ditching Tuesdays is fine by me. OTB here is no longer open on Mon or Tues
Funny You say that but I bet there is Some truth to that here in Ocala the ITW is also Closed on Monday and Tuesday. THere are alot of Tampa fans Here in Ocala for the Winter and I feel certain they do miss some handle from alot of the ITW and OTB's being closed on tuesday
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:37 PM
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In principle, I'm sympathetic with complaints like these, as it seems unfair for horses to get 'put over' with no warning to bettors.

But come on.

No one was robbed, stop it. There's a reason people avoid betting multi-race sequences that have a leg with a bunch of firsters if it isn't the first leg. Workouts are, by and large, meaningless. Sometimes you'll see a horse with a dynamite work pattern and bullet works win, but much more often you'll see them stink up the joint. Likewise, while horses with spaced, slow works often lose, they pop up and win a lot as well.

You have to know that you're going to be in the dark with first-time starters UNLESS YOU PERSONALLY WATCH THEM WORK OUT. And even then sometimes it's dicey. This is part of the game. Don't play a Pick 4 with a firster-laden leg as the second leg and then complain when one gets put over on you.

As for blaming the clocker and the oddsmaker, that's just ridiculous, and you know it. While I agree that more should be done to confirm workout times, Keeneland has actually added clocker comments to their website, which is way more than any other track has done. Sometimes there's going to be a live horse that neither you nor the oddsmaker knows is live until the odds open up. Connie and Michael clearly had a gigantic "BET ME" sign on her when she opened up at even-money. You should have adjusted and started a Pick 3 with her or something. The late Pick 3 still paid $606 for a deuce.

It happens. Either stop betting sequences with firsters or take your lumps.
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:37 PM
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Ditching Tuesdays is fine by me. OTB here is no longer open on Mon or Tues
Keeneland is closed most Mondays and Tuesdays as well. Sucks!
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Old 10-26-2009, 10:17 PM
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GPK, now THAT'S a good avatar - geesh, she's pretty, Dad!
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A similar scenario just happened at Remington Park - Race 7 tonight 10/19/09. The 11 horse was 20-1 ML 1st time starter for Milligan was bet down to 4/5 when the betting began and was sent off at 4-1. Cruised by the favorite (#9 Asmussen horse). STEAM
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