Best Breeder's Cup?

[brianwspencer]

I like 2008...only because it was my first one in person.

I think I actually enjoyed the races top to bottom the best the last time it was at Churchill, what 2006?

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I think I actually enjoyed the races top to bottom the best the last time it was at Churchill, what 2006?

On that biased track, cmon.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

On that biased track, cmon.

I can't tell if your wink is sarcastic about the track being biased or about me liking it....so I won't touch that

[randallscott35]

Churchill 2000.

Personally. Belmont 2005

[GPK]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Churchill 2000.

Personally. Belmont 2005

2005?? Wasn't that was the year you hammered Beautiful Home everyway possible? I think that was her name??

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GPK

2005?? Wasn't that was the year you hammered Beautiful Home everyway possible? I think that was her name??

Can't believe no 2007 Eng Chan vote from you. Horrible weather?

[GPK]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Can't believe no 2007 Eng Chan vote from you. Horrible weather?

I just assumed that would obviously be my vote.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by GPK

2005?? Wasn't that was the year you hammered Beautiful Home everyway possible? I think that was her name??

Pleasant Home, yes....but I kind of took the thread to mean the best races/horses etc..., not personal....I was freezing to death that day at Belmont and the rest of the racing didn't do much for me....2000's cast sticks out for me.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I like 2008...only because it was my first one in person.

I think I actually enjoyed the races top to bottom the best the last time it was at Churchill, what 2006?

The first one may have been the best one. From a desperate Wild Again holding on in a great finish, Chiefs Crown beating the future Preakness winner in Tanks Prospect and Derby and HOY Spend a Buck in the juvy, the DQ in the juvy filly, Eillo won a pretty weak sprint, Royale Heroine blitzing the mile in TR time and defeating among others Cozzene, Princess Rooneys dominating Distaff romp, Lashkari beating All Along in the turf for the Aga Khan, it was a unbelievable day of racing. That was before tracks stacked stakes races on their big days outside of the supporting races on TC days, there wasnt nearly the amount of shipping cross country, there were no super trainers outside of Wayne Lukas and people were a whole lot less cynical about horse racing.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The first one may have been the best one. From a desperate Wild Again holding on in a great finish, Chiefs Crown beating the future Preakness winner in Tanks Prospect and Derby and HOY Spend a Buck in the juvy, the DQ in the juvy filly, Eillo won a pretty weak sprint, Royale Heroine blitzing the mile in TR time and defeating among others Cozzene, Princess Rooneys dominating Distaff romp, Lashkari beating All Along in the turf for the Aga Khan, it was a unbelievable day of racing. That was before tracks stacked stakes races on their big days outside of the supporting races on TC days, there wasnt nearly the amount of shipping cross country, there were no super trainers outside of Wayne Lukas and people were a whole lot less cynical about horse racing.

But I didn't attend it with Scav, therefore it cannot be a finalist.











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[randallscott35]

This chart alone should make it 2000. An amazing chart of horses who matter....of sires who matter....

Stakes - For Thoroughbred Two Year Old Colts and Geldings One And One Sixteenth Miles on the Dirt
Purse: $1,000,000 Guaranteed
Value of Race: $980,120 1st $556,400, 2nd $214,000, 3rd $128,400, 4th $59,920,
5th $21,400
Weather: Cloudy Track: Fast
Off at: 4:02 Start: Good for all

Pgm HorseName (Jockey) Wgt M/E PP SP 1/4 1/2 3/4 Str Fin Odds
4 Macho Uno (Bailey, J.D.) 122 L 4 3 4-Head 5-1 4-Head 2-2 1/2 1-Nose 6.30
1 Point Given (Stevens, G.L.) 122 L b 1 10 10-Head 12-Head 14 6-1 1/2 2-1 1/2 8.10
9 Street Cry (IRE) (Flores, D.R.) 122 L 9 7 8-Head 9-2 6-1/2 3-2 3-1/2 5.60
14 Burning Roma (McCarron, C.J.) 122 L 14 14 14 13-1/2 9-2 5-1 4-Neck 41.70
10 Arabian Light (Sellers, S.J.) 122 L 10 4 1-1 1/2 1-1/2 1-1/2 1-1 5-3/4 9.70
7 Turnberry Isle (IRE) (Kinane, M.J 122 L 7 13 13-2 14 10-Head 8-2 1/2 6-1 48.40
8 City Zip (Santos, J.A.) 122 L 8 2 3-1/2 4-Head 5-1 1/2 4-1/2 7-2 3/4 32.80
12 Flame Thrower (Espinoza, V.) 122 L 12 5 2-Head 2-1/2 2-1 7-1/2 8-1 1/4 5.40
2 Scorpion (Gomez, G.K.) 122 L s 2 1 7-1 7-1 8-1/2 9-5 9-3 1/2 46.80
3 Dollar Bill (Migliore, R.) 122 L 3 12 12-Head 11-1 13-1/2 10-1/2 10-2 1/4 33.20
5 Noverre (Dettori, L.) 122 L 5 6 6-Head 6-Head 7-1/2 11-1 11-2 1/2 35.80
11 Yonaguska (Day, P.) 122 L bs 11 8 5-1/2 3-Head 3-Head 12-1 12-1 1/2 9.80
13 Trailthefox (Prado, E.S.) 122 L 13 11 11-1 10-Head 12-3 13-6 13-5 64.60
6 A P Valentine (Chavez, J.F.) 122 L c 6 9 9-2 1/2 8-1/2 11-1/2 14 14 2.40*
Fractional Times: 23.40, 46.98, 1:11.21, 1:35.71, 1:42.05

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The first one may have been the best one. From a desperate Wild Again holding on in a great finish, Chiefs Crown beating the future Preakness winner in Tanks Prospect and Derby and HOY Spend a Buck in the juvy, the DQ in the juvy filly, Eillo won a pretty weak sprint, Royale Heroine blitzing the mile in TR time and defeating among others Cozzene, Princess Rooneys dominating Distaff romp, Lashkari beating All Along in the turf for the Aga Khan, it was a unbelievable day of racing. That was before tracks stacked stakes races on their big days outside of the supporting races on TC days, there wasnt nearly the amount of shipping cross country, there were no super trainers outside of Wayne Lukas and people were a whole lot less cynical about horse racing.

In the early years of the BC, one of the criticisms was that it offered too much good racing at one place on one day. Supporters pointed out that that format was needed to attract NBC. My how things have changed. The Cup has runneth over to be spread over two days, and mega stakes days have become the norm around the country.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I think I actually enjoyed the races top to bottom the best the last time it was at Churchill, what 2006?

I'd vote for that. Other than Invasor it was a great day. Plus we had the benefit of Byk running down to tell us to pound Street Sense as the bias was obvious. Red Rocks was especially nice though was a bit chilly for the FL and Irish human-shippers. Speaking of that Hooves call me!

[jballscalls]

2004 at Lone Star was my fave! as to the best, probably one from before i really watched

[CSC]

Toss up between Woodbine in 96 and CD in 98 for me.

[MISTERGEE]

Maybe because I was there but go with 1989 at Gulfstream. Just to name a few Bayakoa, Go For Wand, and of course Sunday Silence over Easy Goer

[randallscott35]

For the best turf Mile I've ever seen(impressive wise) was this one from 2001.

Belmont Park - October 27th, 2001 - Race 5
Race name: Breeders' Cup Mile
Stakes - For ThoroughbredThree Year Old and UpwardOne Mile On The Turf
Purse: $1,000,000
Value of Race: $1,044,240 1st $592,800, 2nd $228,000, 3rd $136,800, 4th $63,840, 5th $22,800
Weather: Clear Track: Firm
Off at: 2:43Start: Good for all

Pgm HorseName (Jockey) Wgt M/E PP SP 1/4 1/2 3/4 Str Fin Odds
12 Val Royal (FR) (Valdivia, Jr., J.) 126 L 11 11 11-2 1/2 11-2 11-1/2 3-Head 1-1 3/4 5.10
1 Forbidden Apple (Nakatani, C.) 126 L 1 2 4-1/2 4-1/2 2-1 1-1 1/2 2-3/4 8.20
4 Bach (IRE) (Kinane, M.) 126 L 4 6 6-1 6-Head 5-Head 4-1 1/2 3-1 1/2 33.50
13 Irish Prize (Stevens, G.) 126 L 12 10 10-2 1/2 10-1 1/2 9-1/2 5-Head 4-Neck 5.00
2 Navesink (Prado, E.) 123 L 2 7 7-1/2 8-2 8-1/2 7-Head 5-Neck 17.00
10 Brahms (Solis, A.) 126 L b 10 9 9-1 9-1/2 10-1/2 11-Head 6-Neck 12.40
3 Noverre (Dettori, L.) 123 L 3 8 8-2 1/2 7-Head 7-Head 8-1/2 7-1 4.10*
9 Sarafan (Espinoza, V.) 126 L b 9 12 12 12 12 10-1 8-Neck 26.75
6 City Zip (Chavez, J.) 123 L b 6 1 1-1/2 1-Head 1-1/2 2-1/2 9-2 1/4 32.25
7 Express Tour (Velazquez, J.) 123 L 7 4 3-1 3-Head 3-1 1/2 6-Head 10-2 1/4 21.40
8 Affirmed Success (Bailey, J.) 126 L 8 5 5-1/2 5-1 1/2 6-1 1/2 12 11-1 3/4 5.40
5 Balto Star (Day, P.) 123 L 5 3 2-1 2-1 1/2 4-Head 9-1 1/2 12 8.10
Fractional Times:22.79,45.49,1:08.65,1:32.05

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

For the best turf Mile I've ever seen(impressive wise) was this one from 2001.

Belmont Park - October 27th, 2001 - Race 5
Race name: Breeders' Cup Mile
Stakes - For ThoroughbredThree Year Old and UpwardOne Mile On The Turf
Purse: $1,000,000
Value of Race: $1,044,240 1st $592,800, 2nd $228,000, 3rd $136,800, 4th $63,840, 5th $22,800
Weather: Clear Track: Firm
Off at: 2:43Start: Good for all

Pgm HorseName (Jockey) Wgt M/E PP SP 1/4 1/2 3/4 Str Fin Odds
12 Val Royal (FR) (Valdivia, Jr., J.) 126 L 11 11 11-2 1/2 11-2 11-1/2 3-Head 1-1 3/4 5.10
1 Forbidden Apple (Nakatani, C.) 126 L 1 2 4-1/2 4-1/2 2-1 1-1 1/2 2-3/4 8.20
4 Bach (IRE) (Kinane, M.) 126 L 4 6 6-1 6-Head 5-Head 4-1 1/2 3-1 1/2 33.50
13 Irish Prize (Stevens, G.) 126 L 12 10 10-2 1/2 10-1 1/2 9-1/2 5-Head 4-Neck 5.00
2 Navesink (Prado, E.) 123 L 2 7 7-1/2 8-2 8-1/2 7-Head 5-Neck 17.00
10 Brahms (Solis, A.) 126 L b 10 9 9-1 9-1/2 10-1/2 11-Head 6-Neck 12.40
3 Noverre (Dettori, L.) 123 L 3 8 8-2 1/2 7-Head 7-Head 8-1/2 7-1 4.10*
9 Sarafan (Espinoza, V.) 126 L b 9 12 12 12 12 10-1 8-Neck 26.75
6 City Zip (Chavez, J.) 123 L b 6 1 1-1/2 1-Head 1-1/2 2-1/2 9-2 1/4 32.25
7 Express Tour (Velazquez, J.) 123 L 7 4 3-1 3-Head 3-1 1/2 6-Head 10-2 1/4 21.40
8 Affirmed Success (Bailey, J.) 126 L 8 5 5-1/2 5-1 1/2 6-1 1/2 12 11-1 3/4 5.40
5 Balto Star (Day, P.) 123 L 5 3 2-1 2-1 1/2 4-Head 9-1 1/2 12 8.10
Fractional Times:22.79,45.49,1:08.65,1:32.05

Really? I thought that mile was one of the weakest editions.

[randallscott35]

I think Val Royal got a 116 Beyer for this and looked every bit the part doing it incredibly wide and virtually under a hand ride....Not saying anything about the field.

[DaTruth]

The 1985 edition was pretty good. Precisionist, Cozzene, and Pebbles were noteworthy winners. Some very nice horses hit the board including Lady's Secret, Smile, Turkoman, and Gate Dancer. Then there was the Overbrook owned/Jonathan Sheppard trained colt who was nailed at the wire in the Juvy and who would make quite a splash as a sire.