Why no talk about the breakdowns at Santa Anita this weekend?

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Not to start this endless battle up again, but if you look statistically, it did it's job at AP. Now, I'm a little more open minded than you because all breakdowns are not surface related, but if you want to make blanket statements, I can make just as many in favor of poly as you can make against...strictly from a breakdown perspective.

It did its job at AP?? Whats that keeping the horse safe but paralyzing the jockey?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by kgar311

It did its job at AP?? Whats that keeping the horse safe but paralyzing the jockey?

I didnt know jockeys being paralyzed was limited to polytrack. Of course the horse falling on top of Douglas and laying there may have had something to do with it.

[kgar311]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I didnt know jockeys being paralyzed was limited to polytrack. Of course the horse falling on top of Douglas and laying there may have had something to do with it.

So thats why the jockey's were refusing to race afraid horses were going to fall on them?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by kgar311

So thats why the jockey's were refusing to race afraid horses were going to fall on them?

They were understandably shook up. But the ironic thing was neither injured jock rode a horse that brokedown when they got hurt.

[Revidere]

Originally Posted by kgar311

So thats why the jockey's were refusing to race afraid horses were going to fall on them?

If the horses were made of rubber and "plastic" .......

[TropicalStorm]

I don't know which is sadder? A horse breaking down or the original poster using the tragedy to push an agenda.

It is just as pathetic as someone using the death in a shooting to push an anti-gun agenda.

Horses breakdown for many reasons. Usually it is just bad luck.

Does the original poster blame dirt for the death of Barbaro, or Eight Belles, or Pine Island?

If you don't like polytrack that is fine. Just say it and don't bet it.

The fact is polytrack has basically given the US more turf racing, because that is how it plays almost all the time.

The anti-dirt people were annoying and now the anti-synthetic people are equally annoying.

I know the Europeans have no problem with the synthetic. So like eveything some like it and some don't.

If you do not like it do not bet it. Sounds like Bob Baffert seems to have no problem with it now that he is winning on it. I would guess the gamblers that don't like it would like it if they were winning money on it.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by CrossfireHurricane

I don't know which is sadder? A horse breaking down or the original poster using the tragedy to push an agenda.

It is just as pathetic as someone using the death in a shooting to push an anti-gun agenda.

Horses breakdown for many reasons. Usually it is just bad luck.

Does the original poster blame dirt for the death of Barbaro, or Eight Belles, or Pine Island?

If you don't like polytrack that is fine. Just say it and don't bet it.

The fact is polytrack has basically given the US more turf racing, because that is how it plays almost all the time.

The anti-dirt people were annoying and now the anti-synthetic people are equally annoying.

I know the Europeans have no problem with the synthetic. So like eveything some like it and some don't.

If you do not like it do not bet it. Sounds like Bob Baffert seems to have no problem with it now that he is winning on it. I would guess the gamblers that don't like it would like it if they were winning money on it.

I would have to strongly disagree with your assertion that breakdowns are usually the result of bad luck. It is possible for a sound horse to take a bad step and break down but it is very rare. Most horses that break down are horses that have soundness issues. The condition of the track plays a role too. When you have an unsafe track, you will have a lot more injuries.

But it is very rare for a sound horse to snap their leg.

Originally Posted by CrossfireHurricane

I don't know which is sadder? A horse breaking down or the original poster using the tragedy to push an agenda.

It is just as pathetic as someone using the death in a shooting to push an anti-gun agenda.

Horses breakdown for many reasons. Usually it is just bad luck.

Does the original poster blame dirt for the death of Barbaro, or Eight Belles, or Pine Island?

If you don't like polytrack that is fine. Just say it and don't bet it.

The fact is polytrack has basically given the US more turf racing, because that is how it plays almost all the time.

The anti-dirt people were annoying and now the anti-synthetic people are equally annoying.

I know the Europeans have no problem with the synthetic. So like eveything some like it and some don't.

If you do not like it do not bet it. Sounds like Bob Baffert seems to have no problem with it now that he is winning on it. I would guess the gamblers that don't like it would like it if they were winning money on it.

Ahh the voice of reason..sans the haterade for Jackson.

[gamblin4ever]

Horses are going to breakdown no matter what surface they are on, its just the nature of the business.