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Old 09-29-2009, 01:02 PM
Gander Gander is offline
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I agree that Lava Man was flattered by his enviroment, specifically of the fact he never performed well outside of Southern California against the really good ones like Invasor and Bernardini. He gained his accolades and fans by toying with pretty bad fields for a long time, while collecting monster purses for very little effort.

I do not see that with Better Talk Now. He beat some really nice horses like Kittens Joy and English Channel and had a knack for raining his game on the big stage in the big races. He never ducked anybody and won pretty much every significant turf race for his division with the exception of the Arlington Million. He was very underrated imo.
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Old 09-29-2009, 01:05 PM
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I agree that Lava Man was flattered by his enviroment, specifically of the fact he never performed well outside of Southern California against the really good ones like Invasor and Bernardini. He gained his accolades and fans by toying with pretty bad fields for a long time, while collecting monster purses for very little effort.

I do not see that with Better Talk Now. He beat some really nice horses like Kittens Joy and English Channel and had a knack for raining his game on the big stage in the big races. He never ducked anybody and won pretty much every significant turf race for his division with the exception of the Arlington Million. He was very underrated imo.
Well said, or how about his Manhattan win at the ripe old age of eight against a very solid field? His 3rd place finish this year beaten only two lengths by the leader of the division is pretty impressive as well.

He may not have won many of his final starts, but he was almost always competitive and still did a lot of good things. I was a huge fan and hope he has a great retirement.

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Old 09-29-2009, 02:33 PM
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Just want to add, if there ever there was a jockey that fit a horse and vice versa, it would be Ramon and BTN. A symbiotic relationship.
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Old 09-29-2009, 03:27 PM
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I agree that Lava Man was flattered by his enviroment, specifically of the fact he never performed well outside of Southern California against the really good ones like Invasor and Bernardini. He gained his accolades and fans by toying with pretty bad fields for a long time, while collecting monster purses for very little effort.

I do not see that with Better Talk Now. He beat some really nice horses like Kittens Joy and English Channel and had a knack for raining his game on the big stage in the big races. He never ducked anybody and won pretty much every significant turf race for his division with the exception of the Arlington Million. He was very underrated imo.
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I can't believe its been 5 years since he won the BC at LS. A true warrior.
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