If Zenyatta wins the Classic

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by copying

Not hardly... Zenyatta has beaten the best of the west. Then she went to Oaklawn and drilled the best of the east (defending champ Ginger Punch). Then she went in the championship race and beat the best the world had to throw against her.

RA barely held off Macho Again? LOL

C'mon Jess, maybe she is good enough to compete with the best in the world???? Give her a chance.

you leave out the part where she won the haskell and the preakness while zenyatta was beating the usual suspects. zenyatta beat ginger punch when she was a step or two slower. this year shes beat practically no one. RA has also won in evey part of the country except the west coast. i f you ask me zenyatta is more of a peppers pride. she has not been in a race shes supposed to lose! she would of had a great shot in the woodward. the pace was perfect for her. if the connections wanted to nail HOY, they would of showed up. just sitting there racing scrubs saying you are the best because you win, doesn't cut it. i doubt she even runs in the classic because she would probably get trounced. RA is real good and as far as i can see the best horse at 9 furlongs in the country. you are arguing with some people that think shes better than ruffian, thats when i start to laugh.

[copying]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

you leave out the part where she won the haskell and the preakness while zenyatta was beating the usual suspects. zenyatta beat ginger punch when she was a step or two slower. this year shes beat practically no one. RA has also won in evey part of the country except the west coast. i f you ask me zenyatta is more of a peppers pride. she has not been in a race shes supposed to lose! she would of had a great shot in the woodward. the pace was perfect for her. if the connections wanted to nail HOY, they would of showed up. just sitting there racing scrubs saying you are the best because you win, doesn't cut it. i doubt she even runs in the classic because she would probably get trounced. RA is real good and as far as i can see the best horse at 9 furlongs in the country. you are arguing with some people that think shes better than ruffian, thats when i start to laugh.

Z is on a course prepping to be on the track on Championship day as their plans were long ago announced. You think the Woodward was that day?
RA's nose win over the DRF's described field of "several decent runners" was HOY material? How laughable...

I've never claimed Z to be superhorse, I'm just saying RA hasn't done anything to stake that claim.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by copying

Z is on a course prepping to be on the track on Championship day as their plans were long ago announced. You think the Woodward was that day?
RA's nose win over the DRF's described field of "several decent runners" was HOY material? How laughable...

I've never claimed Z to be superhorse, I'm just saying RA hasn't done anything to stake that claim.

Speaking of laughable....

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by copying

Z is on a course prepping to be on the track on Championship day as their plans were long ago announced. You think the Woodward was that day?
RA's nose win over the DRF's described field of "several decent runners" was HOY material? How laughable...

I've never claimed Z to be superhorse, I'm just saying RA hasn't done anything to stake that claim.

Who is then? Pioneerof Denial? (Yes, I know, I await the tomatoes. It was a play on words with the poster and--nevermind) All I know is I'll be willing and able to tell fans in the future that I remember Rachel Alexandra and boy was she something special. She's got "it" whatever that is, and I figure when faced with that, we need to recognize its presence. You don't have to beat Secretariat to be a superhorse. If you did, well, all hail Onion... In the Woodward, she didn't just do something incredible for the year, she did something that'd be incredible in any year. So maybe it's not the official championship, but it represents something that deserves a lot of respect.

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Who is then? Pioneerof Denial? (Yes, I know, I await the tomatoes. It was a play on words with the poster and--nevermind) All I know is I'll be willing and able to tell fans in the future that I remember Rachel Alexandra and boy was she something special. She's got "it" whatever that is, and I figure when faced with that, we need to recognize its presence. You don't have to beat Secretariat to be a superhorse. If you did, well, all hail Onion... In the Woodward, she didn't just do something incredible for the year, she did something that'd be incredible in any year. So maybe it's not the official championship, but it represents something that deserves a lot of respect.

Well said Merlinsky

[copying]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

Who is then? Pioneerof Denial? (Yes, I know, I await the tomatoes. It was a play on words with the poster and--nevermind) All I know is I'll be willing and able to tell fans in the future that I remember Rachel Alexandra and boy was she something special. She's got "it" whatever that is, and I figure when faced with that, we need to recognize its presence. You don't have to beat Secretariat to be a superhorse. If you did, well, all hail Onion... In the Woodward, she didn't just do something incredible for the year, she did something that'd be incredible in any year. So maybe it's not the official championship, but it represents something that deserves a lot of respect.

I guess that nose victory over a field of "several decent runners" is incredible to you.

[Slewbopper]

Originally Posted by copying

I guess that nose victory over a field of "several decent runners" is incredible to you.

You just don't get it, do you? She is a 3 yo filly for Christ's sake.

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by copying

Z is on a course prepping to be on the track on Championship day as their plans were long ago announced. You think the Woodward was that day?
RA's nose win over the DRF's described field of "several decent runners" was HOY material? How laughable...

I've never claimed Z to be superhorse, I'm just saying RA hasn't done anything to stake that claim.

Why should the BC be "championship" day??? Championships are won throughout the whole year. That's why they call it "Horse of the Year" and not Horse of the Breeder's Cup 2009

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Why should the BC be "championship" day??? Championships are won throughout the whole year. That's why they call it "Horse of the Year" and not Horse of the Breeder's Cup 2009

it's not championship day. the bc calls it that, but that doesn't make it so.

[copying]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Why should the BC be "championship" day??? Championships are won throughout the whole year. That's why they call it "Horse of the Year" and not Horse of the Breeder's Cup 2009

It shouldn't be -- but that's what it's become -- like it or not.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by copying

It shouldn't be -- but that's what it's become -- like it or not.

no, it hasn't.

[Smooth Operator]

Would've been great to see Big Z mow down RA in that Anita lane.


But how can you blame Jackson for not wanting to feel the agony of defeat for two straight years...